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Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by moey, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. Tom Wallace

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    If the temperature stays above 40, the heat pump feature will still work. I would think that it becomes less efficient as the temperature drops, but I'm not sure about that part. Mine's in a garage in Seattle, so it probably never drops below 50 in there thanks to our mild winters. Perfect location for a heat pump water heater I think.

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  2. slls

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    You didn't post your monthly bill. Or total cost of complete system.
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  3. moey

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    My system was about 22k A/C, Heat, new ductwork. As far as monthly cost not sure its only been in 2 months. My electric bill last month was a little less then it was the previous month before it was installed. Can't really conclude much from that although I probably ran the A/C 10 or so days on that cycle. Hot water is more or less free in the summer if the A/C is running. Rather then dump the heat back underground its going in the hot water tank. In the winter there is a cost though for hot water takes away from heat for the house.
  4. 343amc

    343amc Feeling the Heat

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    I was a bit worried about the basement being too cold in winter, but I get enough waste heat off the pellet furnace which is about 40 feet from the water heater that its not an issue. No problems running heat pump only mode.
  5. Pellet-King

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    GE GeoSpring 50-Gallon 120-Month Hybrid Heat Pump Water Heater ENERGY STAR

    Item #: 386797 | Model #: GEH50DEEDSR

    $1,199.00 now

    Anyone know if there's any rebates in connecticut?
  6. Heaterhunter

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    Mine ran fine last winter in an uninsulated basement. I don't run my pellet stove in the basement unless it's cold(less than 15::F typically) so it's normally around 55::F in my basement. I installed a KWh meter so now I'm seeing what the HWHP is actually using. My electric bills have been consistently $20 higher since I installed it so I'm thinking it runs just fine at a wide range of temperatures.
  7. moey

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    I assume you mean lower?? Nevermind maybe you had oil/propane before and it went up $20.
  8. iceguy4

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    The long and short of it is it takes the heat from the space here it is set up. so if you have it in the basement it ill rob that area of heat. your furnace will be supplying that heat. Mine will be shut off in the winter as my pellet will supplie an indirect HW heater on its own zone. as for dehumidifying it is great. I use to use a dehumidifier and don't need to now so basically I'm getting my HW free;lol
  9. Pellet-King

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    I'm really interested in this, my 5 yr old 50 gallon electric hog has to go, my biggest concern is how to drain, there are several drains in my basement floor but none closer than 15' away form where my present hot water heater is which is in the center of my basement, the drains are off to the the side where my washer/dryer is and there is a what was susposed to be a shower installed in the floor cement many year's ago in which my dehumidifier drains into, also there is my cellar door between my heater and drains to deal with.
    Ct has a total of $700 in rebates.
  10. moey

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    This is usually what is used. I have no drain and my heat pump drains into one of these which drains into the drain for my washer.

    https://www.acwholesalers.com/Littl...ump/30398.ac?gclid=CMKtt6i0u7gCFZCe4AodvAIAEw

    This was the first google link dont take it as a endorsement of this brand.
  11. Dodge

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    Just got mine today. Does anyone know were the Anode Rod is located on this unit?
  12. briansol

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    Can you disable the heat pump? ie, run heat pump in summer, turn off oil pig.
    in winter, when the pig will be on as backup, turn off heat pump and just use the electric portion of it and keep some heat in the basement
  13. Tom Wallace

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    Yes, you can specify what heating mode it will use. Typically mine's in hybrid mode (heat pump and normal element). You can run heat pump only, hybrid, electric only and something called high demand. I'm not sure what the last one does, but I've never used it.
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  14. Pellet-King

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    So this was onsale last week for $999?, anyone how long it will take to go if ever to $999, I will NOT buy it for $1199
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    Justin M Feeling the Heat

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  16. Pellet-King

    Pellet-King Minister of Fire

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    Dont know about buying on line, rather buy local and use lowe's discounts and ease of returns if a lemon
    read the lowes reviews and someone bought a lemon and it took 2 days to get a tech there.....that's 2 days NO HOT WATER!!
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    Yes it takes heat from the area it is working in, but the beauty of it being in a basement, besides dehumidifying, is that your basement temp is maintained by the earth, in my house a consistent 55F.

    I have my 80G stiebel-Eltron unit set to heat the water in the tank to 160F, with a mixing valve on the output mixing in cold water so the water being delivered to the faucet is 115F, that way the resistive element never kicks in, it makes the 80G of 160F more like 120-140G of 115F, depending on the temp of the cold water being mixed in.
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    In most homes this is more then likely not true. Most homes with basements , 2 or so feet are above the ground. then the next 2 feet below the ground are subject to the "frost line". So more then 1/2 of the area of your walls are NOT next to a constant 55° you mention. IMHO these are not a good choice for winter use in a cold climate....at least in the heat pump mode. Mine(AO smith 60 gallon) really pushes COLD air when it runs
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    My GeoSpring unit is running for a day now, (heat pump) mode. 4 showers no complaints, although because of the heat wave, showers, by choice have been on the cool side. I enjoyed the water, it was an even temp., no messing with the dial, not like my OHW. My electrician was impressed with the unit and the deal I got. He had his meter on it and it pulled just 2+ amps in the heat pump mode and as the tank was filling up for the first time, it went to hybrid mode and was pulling 18+ amps. I went right from Oil DHW to this unit. I hope it is like a (winning) slot machine for me. We cleaned the pig and removed the coil and replaced the boiler plate as it was getting rusty. I covered my chimney to prevent water and such from going down and tagged my breaker fuse. Any concerns out there about condensation etc about leaving the pig unplugged until October? I got my GE at Lowes, $1199, - $120. military disc and $300 from PP&L. and 6m financing. My tax guy said I maxed out my federal credit 3yrs. ago. As for the concerns about heat loss, a review on lowes website said he had it in a room that was a normal 65 degrees, after installation the room was 62-63 degrees. If it is an issue, I can push a little more heat from the (oil pig/ Big E or run the water heater in a different mode that doesn't throw cool air.
  20. moey

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    If its a boiler watch for leaks (small) if its been maintaining temp for years some gaskets may need tightening up. When I had mine serviced when I installed my tank the tech said they are designed to be shut down your not going to hurt it just have it cleaned fairly soon after you shut it down.
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    I just had it cleaned Tuesday and we replaced the boiler plate and gasket yesterday when we removed the coil.
  22. briansol

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    does the 10 year warranty scare anyone? IRRC, the last time I had an electric heater at my condo, it was a 20 year. (built in 86, left in 2006, still had orig heater)
  23. Justin M

    Justin M Feeling the Heat

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    Nope. Warranties on electric water heaters these days seem to range from 6-12 years.
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    This is mind blowing. I was going to do this and even get this specific unit in the spring but saw there were no funds left in the Efficiency Maine program. I desperately want to use a water heater for my hot water instead of my furnace. Bummer the price is back up to $1199 though. I'll have to scrounge up a Lowe's coupon.
  25. moey

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    They seem to do it in a couple month cycles keep checking back. They had the promotion for a while then didnt have it then had it again.

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