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  1. jatoxico

    jatoxico Minister of Fire

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    Been using the ash method and it works well but I thought I heard that certain cleaners contain additives (silicone?) that conditions the glass so dirt does not stick as easily. Anyone know if this is true? I'd like to pick something up since I figure sooner or later I'm going to dab the ash and pick up some sand.

    BTW there has been some talk about not using glass plus on the glass/ceramic so I stopped using it. I was at a stove shop the other day and the product they carried contained ammonia like glass plus cleaner.

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  2. cptoneleg

    cptoneleg Minister of Fire

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    I use some cleaner I got at the stove shop called Red Devil Woodstove Glass Cleaner, works great The ingrediants print is too small for me to read, but it sure smells like amonia to me, I have read here also that folks say don't use it but I don't know where they get their info.

    On the bottle it says (www.meecomfg.com) The ash thing works so so, but nothing like this stuff. Ever so often I detail my stove out to showroom brand new condition. I am going to look this site up myself, I know what amonia smells like and its in this bottle, anyway I have been using it for 2 yrs and works great.


    Good Luck
  3. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    This has to be some sort of record for the most glass cleaning threads to start the burning season.
  4. Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle

    Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle Minister of Fire

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    Probably. Tells you of the state of the economy .


    I use ammonia, sprayed on a PT. And scrub. The next hot fire usually takes care of the residue.
  5. cptoneleg

    cptoneleg Minister of Fire

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    I thought it was a record for Oak Haters
  6. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Oak Haters?
  7. jatoxico

    jatoxico Minister of Fire

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    Ahh, but this is about glass cleaners not cleaning the glass. Very different.

    Cptoneleg, I was wondering how ammonia could damage ceramic but figured better listen in case there was something to it. With your info and the other product I saw I'm thinkin' glass plus ain't gonna hurt nothing. Stove glass cleaners prob just a bit stronger.
  8. cptoneleg

    cptoneleg Minister of Fire

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    Folks who swear they will never bring home a stick of Oak again. because it sizzles or hisses or something like that, but you are right their are plenty of ways to clean glass. :lol:
  9. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    If these poor souls are in the SE PA area they can drop off all of that awful wood onto my driveway.
  10. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    I don't know what is in it but that bottle of dollar store window cleaner is on its sixth year and that glass looks fine. In all of the stoves. I have to clean the little ones and the pellet puppy daily when I use'em. The 30-NC is the prime mover and it only needs it every month or two.
  11. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    I haven't cleaned the Encore, yet. The Heritage I've cleaned once. The reason being is that splits lean against the glass far more often on the Heritage than on the Encore.
  12. cptoneleg

    cptoneleg Minister of Fire

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    Only reason I purchased that was I didn't want to mess up the glass, because you read it on here all the time don't use anything with ammonia in it. Anyway this stuff I purchased reaks of ammonia, but when I look up ingrediants it says strong secret formula.
  13. jatoxico

    jatoxico Minister of Fire

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    I think I'm prob being a bit picky w/ the glass but my bricks are dirty too. Some will say burn hotter but the thermo on top has been to 600+ pretty regularly and not really interested in going much hotter. The burn tubes and top of firebox is clean. In fact I slid one of the skamol bricks outta the way today so I could inspect the flue a little and looks OK.

    A stray brick will clean up a bit when a log happens to burn right against it but overall they are black/brown.
  14. North of 60

    North of 60 Minister of Fire

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    Glass Cleaners = Dry wood and hotter burn times after a reload.
  15. Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle

    Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle Minister of Fire

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    J, ya got wet wood.
  16. fossil

    fossil Accidental Moderator Staff Member

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    OK, what does everyone use to clean their bricks?
  17. cptoneleg

    cptoneleg Minister of Fire

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    I do windows but I don't do BRICKS :lol:
  18. jatoxico

    jatoxico Minister of Fire

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    Hey hey! That's not what I mean. Wondering if I should let the stove run out a little.

    Eileen I don't think the woods wet, at least according to the meter but I may be shutting down the air too quick. I should have a sweep come out by the end of the month though in case you are right and I'm dirtying up the works.
  19. pen

    pen There are some who call me...mod. Staff Member

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    One good hot fire and those bricks will turn damn near snow white again. Run the thing hotter, consistently and don't close that air down so far.

    pen
  20. jatoxico

    jatoxico Minister of Fire

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    You $#%&^% guys :lol: .
  21. Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle

    Doing The Dixie Eyed Hustle Minister of Fire

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    Heat.
  22. BrotherBart

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    With an E/W load like the 550, probably with the blower going, uses the stuff is cooking out of the ends of the splits against the cooler bricks and sticking. Yeah, there is a wood dryness question here. Put in a half load of really small stuff and crank it up and watch that stuff burn off the bricks. Leave the blower off for this.
  23. jatoxico

    jatoxico Minister of Fire

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    OK I asked this once before but no one wanted to venture a guess. I have a Rutland thermo laid flat on top (in vent). It's meant to be vertical maybe on a stove pipe. You think it may be trapping heat and therefore reading too high? The temp goes to 600+ and I start to back off. I have never loaded the stove because of this.

    My intuition is that the stove should be able to be filled pretty good with hardwood but according to my thermo I would go nuclear.
  24. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Something seems off here.

    Get an IR thermometer and see if the temp reads differently. Any EPA stove should be able to be packed full and still be run safely.
  25. jatoxico

    jatoxico Minister of Fire

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    I have one BBAR but it's hard to get a true reading in the vent due to the angle. Been using it to shoot the flue collar and near the thermo as best I can. Seemed close at the temps I can read (400+) but the cheapy unit (HF) I have does not read high enough though and eventually just says Hi or something (can't find the pamphlet).

    I'm with you though, most users are not on this site monitoring every little thing, just pack it full and let 'er rip. And I can't believe Jotul would make a stove that overheats on 1/4 maybe 1/2 loads but I'm topping out 600+ on these types of loads so I take it easy.

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