Great Wood Stove Article by Alliance for Green Heat

[FyreBug]

Good read and its about time... They should have expanded and included stated BTU, Sq Ft and other specs ...

http://forgreenheat.blogspot.ca/201...utm_campaign=June+newsletter&utm_medium=email

 

[FyreBug]

One thing EPA should crack down on and not mentioned in the article is they should have added is the "Tested to EPA Standards" that is starting to crop up from various MFG.

What this means it they've tested to EPA Standards and did not pass! We're seeing this in particular with Furnaces and some pellet appliances.

 

[begreen]

Good to point out this problem. There is however, a bit of an issue with this statement:

"We believe Drolet may have some of the best advertising of an exempt stove because it says, “It is ideal for hunting camps, cabins, and garages.”

In many parts of the country, installing a wood stove in a garage is illegal.

 

[John Ackerly]

We should have run that story years ago. Excellent point about garages. Do you know where there might be any more good info on that? The frustrating thing with codes is that its often just county by county and its hard to asses who widespread some regulations are.

 

[BrotherBart]

NFPA 211

12.2.4 Solid fuel burning appliances shall not be installed in any garage.

 

[FyreBug]

as a side note the NFPA does not apply to Canada. An insurance company may allow a wood burning appliance in a garage as long as it meets its specific code, inspected and certified.

Certified solid-fuel burning appliances must be installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s installation instructions and the requirements of CAN/CSA-B365-M.

"Solid-fuel burning appliances shall not be installed in hazardous locations where a corrosive atmosphere, flammable gas or vapour, combustible dust, or combustible fibres may be present.

However, an appliance may be installed in a storage or residential garage if it is mounted at least 450 mm above floor level and protected against physical damage. A service room is required to enclose a solid-fuel burning appliance in a repair garage or similar facility. "

 

[begreen]

Good info about the Canadian ruling. Thanks. Tho, last I checked, Green Heat is in the US.

There are exceptions made in the US, it depends on the local inspecting authority in some states.

 

[BrotherBart]

And Canada has minimum specs for garages too. Height off the floor etc.

 

[fossil]

The NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) is not a government agency. Rather, it is an industry advisory group, like the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), for example (there are scads of others). Nothing the NFPA says is law. In many areas, however, local authorities having jurisdiction have chosen to incorporate NFPA Standards (recommendations), oftentimes verbatim, into the codes...in which case those words do become law for that jurisdiction. NFPA 211 would be a great guide to follow in any case...but it's not always the final word. The final word comes from the local authority having jurisdiction. Rick

 

[FyreBug]

Good to know. We'll discuss internally to possibly change the wording on the web sites...

 

[Backwoods Savage]

We should have run that story years ago. Excellent point about garages. Do you know where there might be any more good info on that? The frustrating thing with codes is that its often just county by county and its hard to asses who widespread some regulations are.

Not just by county, but townships! We live on the township line and sometimes the code is different on this side of the road vs the neighbor on the other side. But then, so are the school lines. We may live on the same road but they are in one school district and we are in another. So, they pay to take their kids to our school.

 

[tfdchief]

The NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) is not a government agency. Rather, it is an industry advisory group, like the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE), for example (there are scads of others). Nothing the NFPA says is law. In many areas, however, local authorities having jurisdiction have chosen to incorporate NFPA Standards (recommendations), oftentimes verbatim, into the codes...in which case those words do become law for that jurisdiction. NFPA 211 would be a great guide to follow in any case...but it's not always the final word. The final word comes from the local authority having jurisdiction. Rick

To add to what Rick has already said.......NFPA is a standard and as he said, not law or code unless adopted by a governing body. However, the ICC Building Codes quite often reference the NFPA standards rather than duplicate. The ICC Codes are pretty much the standard adopted codes in all jurisdictions everywhere since the other model codes no longer exist except for outdated ones. So, the NFPA standards are often "code" When it comes to NFPA 211 for fireplaces and wood stoves, it is seldom used because the heating appliance has a UL rating and specifications for clearances and installation which takes precedence. As for installing a wood burning appliance in a garage......I don't know that that has ever been allowed, by adopted building code, referenced standards, or a UL installation specification, for fairly obvious reasons. Oh, my brother has a wood burner in his garage........violating the city's codes, no permit, and his brother is the Fire Chief and Inspector You just can't fix stupid.