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Harman, the REAL story

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by webbie, Jul 21, 2008.

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  1. hearthtools Super Moderator

    joined: Jan 6, 2006
    2,014 posts
    Oakhurst, California, USA, Earth
    we take a min of 1/3 down. Stove to be paid in full before it leaves the shop.
    Labor and material to be paid right after install.
    hearthtools, Jul 23, 2008
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  2. dsnedegar3 New Member

    joined: Jul 4, 2008
    132 posts
    Southern Connecticut
    I had one Harman dealer request for 50% in June with delivery after December (probably March now). That's a long time. I had another Harman/Quadrafire ask for $300. Asking for 50% is one thing when you expect delivery within a few months, but when you're talking 9 months --that's another issue.
    dsnedegar3, Jul 23, 2008
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  3. webbie Administrator

    joined: Nov 17, 2005
    10,937 posts
    Western Mass.
    Well, if you think that is bad, some DEALERS had to pay Harman and some other makers 100% up front.......

    It's fodder for another thread, but mom and pop stove dealers are NOT Lowes, Home Depot or another chain store where you can expect them to say "yes, yes, yes" to everything. The big boxes often have sweet deals with their vendors to be able to return anything, charge back to the makers, etc. etc.

    50% down is very typical at this time of year - assuming a stove can be had in 3 months or so. Many of our customers used to pay in full up front just to get it out of the way....but, then again, we were never more than 5 weeks behind (in 20+ years!)

    But 50% for 9 months or more or never....personally, unless I was buying a Rolls Royce or nice Airplane, I wouldn't go for that one.
    webbie, Jul 23, 2008
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  4. STOVEGUY11 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 12, 2008
    378 posts
    SOUTHERN CT
    Exactly! Dealers have bills too. As does any business. And as a Business there are more bills
    STOVEGUY11, Jul 23, 2008
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  5. ducker Feeling the Heat

    joined: Apr 22, 2008
    371 posts
    Leominster, MA
    I put down $1k in June for delivery in Aug of a Harman P38 - which has been confirmed to be installed on the 7th of Aug.
    ducker, Jul 23, 2008
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  6. MCPO Minister of Fire

    joined: May 1, 2008
    2,048 posts
    western Ma , close to NY state border
    Lowes , Home Depot , True Value , and Ace hardware stores all sell the Englanders at reasonable prices. No waiting or 1/3 down.
    My local True Value hardware store has had two sizes available since the spring. They also have pellets. Neighbor purchased two larger sized model stoves. They claim they have had no problem getting the stoves from their warehouses.
    MCPO, Jul 23, 2008
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  7. STOVEGUY11 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Feb 12, 2008
    378 posts
    SOUTHERN CT
    Well it comes down to, you get what you pay for. Not to say the Englander isnt a good stove, but you know what I mean. Some people are not capable of repairing there stoves themselves thats why they buy from a dealer. Home Depot nor your harware store will service their stoves.
    STOVEGUY11, Jul 23, 2008
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  8. webbie Administrator

    joined: Nov 17, 2005
    10,937 posts
    Western Mass.
    Getting off the Harman track here, but these stores usually have stock less than 1/2 the year, can give you no (or dangerous) advice, cannot install, cannot service and usually cannot even deliver (or at least not inside) your house.

    There are plenty of stoves available out there in the marketplace - just not Harman, Quad and selected others.

    Let's try to keep the thread on Harman, Quad and other shortages...
    webbie, Jul 23, 2008
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  9. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Closing thread. That last dialog helps no one. Take a chill pill boys.
    begreen, Jul 24, 2008
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