Hearth Pad Help Needed: Do I need more protection?

[120inna55]

I posted a video of my stove on YouTube and a Hearth.com member commented on the video that I may not have adequate protection for my floor.

I have an Englander 12-FP. All my clearances are fine. The question is regarding floor protection.

I purchased the stove and materials 2 years ago, but only recently installed it and have been using it for 2 months now with great results.

The "pad" lies directly on my wood laminate flooring. I never received any literature with the pad, but my receipt indicates it's a "Guardian PG-F4842B1". It is 1.5" thick and is lined with a woven, fibrous material resembling that of my stove door gasket. An online search revealed an identical model number on the first page of this newsletter: http://www.northweststoves.ca/pdf/newsletters/07-1212.pdf

I also got a hit on this which appears to be identical to my pad: http://www.9918.info/trade_b2b/product/black-embershield-hearth-protection-105279309.html

My Englander stove literature indicates an R-rating of at least 2 is required. I have no idea what the R-rating of this pad/board is and I have been unsuccessful at finding any literature about it.

Please help!

 

[Danno77]

HEY! It was me. I wasn't trying to freak you out about a fire or anything, just wanted to make sure you got it to code. I did some google searches and came up with the same links you just posted. I don't really know what the R-value is for that pad either.

Realistically speaking, though, I've done a lot of checking underneath the stove and it's never gotten hot enough to worry. I don't know if the difference is that you and I both use the legs on there, and the R-value requirements were for the pedestal? It's been a long time since I read through the manual.

 

[120inna55]

...I wasn't trying to freak you out about a fire or anything, just wanted to make sure you got it to code...

I freak out easily when it comes to risk of burning down my home.

...Realistically speaking, though, I've done a lot of checking underneath the stove and it's never gotten hot enough to worry. I don't know if the difference is that you and I both use the legs on their, and the R-value requirements were for the pedestal? It's been a long time since I read through the manual.

I just looked at the manual and there is no distinction with regard to R-rating between pedestal vs. leg installation, just that the R-rating is to be at least 2.

I agree that it doesn't get that hot underneath, but I'd still like to be within the manufacturer's specifications. I hope someone who has the same pad/shield sees this thread and has their literature.

 

[begreen]

Golkin appears to be a Chinese tile and patio furniture maker. The insulation value is unknown. Hard to say if it is more than a good embershield.
Call your dealer to see if he has any actual specs. For peace of mind it may need a layer of 1/2" micore or other insulation board underneath it.

 

[Danno77]

I think this could be the company that made yours. I can't find it on their website, but the pdf you linked to mentions the name Hearth Classics and has a matching number.

http://www.hearthclassics.com/

They do make high R-value pads that aren't very thick, but I don't see them labeling something "EmberShield" if it is supposed to be rated for that high of an R-value.

 

[120inna55]

I think this could be the company that made yours. I can't find it on their website, but the pdf you linked to mentions the name Hearth Classics and has a matching number.

http://www.hearthclassics.com/

They do make high R-value pads that aren't very thick, but I don't see them labeling something "EmberShield" if it is supposed to be rated for that high of an R-value.

You're probably correct about the website, but I don't see any pads there that look like mine. Additionally, it would appear their pads have R-rating of 1.01, with the exception of the "XTreme" and "Low Profile Base" versions which are definitely not like mine.

...For peace of mind it may need a layer of 1/2" micore or other insulation board underneath it.

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What is the nature of "micore"? Is it fabric? Rigid?

 

[begreen]

It is a soft, mineral board often used for sound deadening in acoustic panels. If you have a nearby site for recycled or cheap office cubicle separator panels, you might find them with a core of Micore panel.

 

[DanCorcoran]

I just posted a thread on where to find Micore a few hours ago...