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How big is your stove.... really.

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Highbeam, Jul 21, 2010.

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  1. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    I'm interested in seeing the comparison of the two. The Vigilant is 50k BTUs and the Heritage is 55k. The Vigilant has a much larger firebox, but I know that damn thing is inefficient. Looking forward to this winter.

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  2. thechimneysweep

    thechimneysweep Minister of Fire

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    Exceptional fit and finish, BIG view of the fire, should do the 1200 sq.ft. Hearthstone advertises. The price point and ultra-modern styling limits the potential customer base, but we've sold a few, and the feedback has been positive.
  3. Battenkiller

    Battenkiller Minister of Fire

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    I'm curious to see what you find. Mike Pinto here had a Vigilant and then got an Oslo. He seemed to be a little nervous about how the Vig burned, and I have to say I was as well in the beginning. He likes the Oslo better, and says he gets more heat with less wood for a stove that's basically the same size. Only thing is, I don't know how he burned his. I burned hot as Hades in mine. I figured if I blew it up, there are plenty more where that one came from. So far, no apparent damage but a warped andiron. I did get an embarrassing amount of creosote from it, though. That really surprised me because the pipe and stove interior were always squeaky clean. The sweep said most of the creo was about 15' up the flue, and there was only about 1/4" overall, but the chimney is 25' tall, so 1/4" in an 8" tile flue can add up to a lot all told. All that unburned smoke has to go somewhere if I ain't seeing it come out the top of the stack. And I did go through almost 6 cord this year as well, a lot of it good hickory. But the place was toast-y for the first time in 20 years, so I think I can live with burning more wood and getting it cleaned out twice a year. He didn't think I needed to, but I think the draft suffered by season's end, so it may be worth it.
  4. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    That is why I don't drink Anheuser Busch beers from the St. Louis brewery. That is where they stable the Clydesdales. :grrr:

    As to the single malts. Glenfiddich is my favorite but not available in our damned state liquor stores.
  5. Battenkiller

    Battenkiller Minister of Fire

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    Glenfiddich is good stuff, and I dig the triangle-shaped bottle. You can pack more in the stove that way.
  6. wendell

    wendell Minister of Fire

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    If he was drinking Cutty Sark, i didn't think it was fair to bring up single malts. Give me anything from Islay and I'm a happy camper.
  7. gibson

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    I just filled my stove with canned foam and I am now pretty sure that I got screwed out of 1 cubic inch! I'm asking for a refund. I usually drink Bud Light, unless a guest brings something else.
  8. Battenkiller

    Battenkiller Minister of Fire

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    Well, I wasn't going to look like a whisky snob...

    ... but I just finished off the last of a bottle of Laphraoig. Special quarter-cask bottling, non-chill filtered, sipped neat, slowly and lovingly from a crystal snifter. Positively divine concoction. Drank it while watching a great Swedish flick, "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo". In the film there was a scene where a bottle of 21 year-old single malt was brought out, described as "too good to be true". Sometimes a great whisky just seems that way.
  9. bokehman

    bokehman Feeling the Heat

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    Now take it out and weigh it. I'll bet there's nowhere near 46lbs in it.
  10. Battenkiller

    Battenkiller Minister of Fire

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    20 lbs/cu.ft.? Basswood weighs more than that, never mind oak or hickory.

    http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wood-density-d_40.html

    I have an older but highly accurate produce scale near my stove that I use for weighing canoe parts and exotic wood and such. I can easily fit about 60-70 pounds of bone dry white ash in my Vigilant without overcrowding things. Stove ain't supposed to hold that much (55 lbs max), but it fits and it ain't never complained about it. If I loaded it to the top with straight shagbark, I'll bet it'd hold close to 80 lbs. That's less than 2 cu.ft of solid hickory wood, plenty of room for the 1.4 cu.ft. of air left over. So, I don't know how much room is inside a Heritage, but I weighed what mine can hold.
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    Love the wine bottle pic by BeGreen.. Just measured my Clydesdale which is anything but a square box. I measured from the center of the box for LxWxH average with bricks an baffle in place and came up with almost exactly 2.4 cuft.. No issues here..

    2.4cuft is what Hearthstone claims in the literature for the insert
  12. bobforsaken

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    Feel free to send some to me... I love me some Leinies! I can't get Creamy Dark anywhere here. Can't wait for Fireside Nut Brown season!!!!!!
  13. Todd

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    Sorry to dig this old thread up but the other day I was walking through the local Farm and Fleet store and they had the Englander 13 and 30 sitting there so I decided to measure the fire boxes. I took the measurements from side to side with the brick in, bottom brick to the top of the burn tube and from the front lip under the door to the rear fire bricks. The 30 came in at 2.76 and the NC13 was 1.54, a little short of their 3.5 and 1.8.

    I'm not trying to dis Englander, they make one of the best bangs for your buck out there and recommended them to a couple friends. I rarely ever hear a bad thing about them. It's just that it bugs the crap out of me and felt like venting. With the new season approaching many nebies will be looking at different stoves and want to compare apples to apples. Well if you do it, it would be a good idea to measure or even throw some splits in there to get a better idea of what's what.

    Oh, by the way, no beer today, I'm drinking Bacardi. :)
  14. sapratt

    sapratt Feeling the Heat

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    I second that.
  15. tickbitty

    tickbitty Minister of Fire

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    I hear a "tool time" Tim Allen "GRUNT" when I read that.

    My insert seems to have slightly over the 2.2 they claim.

    18" X 19.5" X 11" to the bottom of the burn tubes.
  16. quads

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    Yup, Old Smokey has been heating my butt for 40-ish years.
  17. BrotherBart

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    Quit taking pics of wood splits and your axe for a second and hit us with a pic of that bad boy stove.
  18. quads

    quads Minister of Fire

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    I don't think so. It's not very pretty. Maybe. I'll think about it!
  19. Danno77

    Danno77 Minister of Fire

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    yeah, I need a pic, Quads. I was starting to wonder if you actually have a stove or you just like cutting and splitting wood.
  20. Todd

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    Hearthstone Equinox 3.1 cu ft. Not even close to their stated 4.0. Wonder why they even bothered venting it with 8"?
  21. Battenkiller

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    C'mon... Mama always said that pretty is as pretty does. I'm sure your beast does and does and does some more. That alone makes it beautiful in my eyes.
  22. quads

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    Ha ha! All the more to sell!
  23. JeffT

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    Just checked the stove 17.5D 20.75W 12H-4x4x12(angled back corners)=2.4 for the Quad Cumberland Gap.Advertised 2.4.
    Also my favorite beer is an open one.Doesn't even have to be that cold,just not flat.
  24. kevinmerchant

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    Come On! What did you have to go drag-in the the Englander 30 into it for. I just bought one, all excited about the big 3.5 box after burn-in in a 1.4 and 1.7 (or maybe they were only .9 and 1.1). When I get home I'm measuring them all and will post {Vermont convection, Avolon pendalian, Englander furnace, and the new 30). Then again I wont be all that upset since I snagged the Englander 30 with shipping for a whopping $725. Can't wait to get home, should get there same time I do Monday.
  25. Ratman

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    classic!
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