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  1. ericj New Member

    joined: Oct 9, 2010
    69 posts
    Iowa
    I'm still in the stage of researching whether we'll buy a wood stove to supplement our heat. It sure looks fun, I can say that. My question is about the ads of Craigslist for a "pickup load of wood." 1. If it is stacked neatly would this be around a half cord in a full size truck? 2. What if it is just thrown in? How much would this be? 3. Should I insist on buying by the cord, or fraction of a cord even if they advertise by a different measurement? Thanks for your help!
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  2. homebrewz Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 29, 2005
    811 posts
    East Central, NY
    If stacked neatly, 1/2 cord will fit into the back of a full-size pickup. Something mid-size, like a Dodge Dakota will hold a third of a cord. If you just randomly throw the wood in, it will fit considerably less in either case.

    The laws tend to vary by state as far as what constitutes a legal sale of firewood, but the sale should be made on some measurement based on the cord (face/half/full).
    Buy whatever you are comfortable with. You can always measure it stacked and find out how much it is. Here is a link to a handy cord calculator:

    http://www.state.me.us/ag/firewood.html
  3. mrfjsf Member

    joined: Sep 29, 2010
    215 posts
    Wash. Pa
    Just for reference, I have a ford ranger and I was able to neatly stuff a little over 1/3 cord (split already) in my bed. It was rounded over a little and like I said, I very strategically stacked the splits in the bed. You should be able to get a 1/2 cord or much better in a full size with an 8ft bed. Depends how it is stacked and if it is split.
  4. sgt7546 Member

    joined: Sep 28, 2010
    107 posts
    Pittsburgh, PA
    I fit (and have measured) 1/2 cord in a fullsize Dodge with the 6.5 foot bed. Thats neatly stacked of course.
  5. Bigg_Redd Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 19, 2008
    2,966 posts
    Shelton, WA
    A typical longbed is 8x6x1.5 which is 72 cu ft or just over half a cord. I can't do the math to account for the inevitable mounding but 3/4 of a cord is not an unreasonable expectation.
  6. RNLA Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 18, 2010
    761 posts
    I have a Toyota. I put in 1/3 with using some splits as "steak sides" to mound it up. In this small of a truck it is a big load but effective. Also the guy I buy from is absolutely trust worthy; stacking all splits sold in 1/3 boxes which usually are more than full... So that means I get at least 1/3 or a touch more with it measured out and always get a strong true cord.
  7. SKIN052 Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 12, 2008
    568 posts
    All I can say is that it is indeed Great fun, exercise and a good excuse to get out of the house. But be fair warned, it is also hard work. Espically if you get addicted to it like many of us have. I have a half ton F-150 with a cap on the back. I can easily get 3/4 cord on it. Mind you the truck is darn near dead and I am getting ready to get rid of her. Sad times.
  8. Wood Duck Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 26, 2009
    3,773 posts
    Central PA
    I think it is OK to buy by any measurement - 1/2 cord, truckload, face cord, s10 cord, armful - as long as you know what you're getting for the price you are paying. I don't see much point in arguing with every wood seller that their measurement, which they have used for 55 years and everybody else is fine with, is not legal or correct. You waste your time and irritate them. Count on the wood not being very well seasoned when you buy it, so plan to buy ahead and stack it in the sun and wind for a year or two.
  9. soupy1957 Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 8, 2010
    1,358 posts
    Connecticut
    There's a term I heard, that is used to define a "truck load" of wood, but for the life of me,..........I can't recall what that term is, right now. (dang it). I remember hearing it and wondering what the heck that term meant.

    -Soupy1957
  10. SolarAndWood Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 3, 2008
    6,714 posts
    Syracuse NY
    A truck or trailer load is what any given guy on any given day expects to be paid for when he dumps it in your driveway. I bought two trailer loads year 1 and they both ended up being 2/3 of what I was told they were. At least the propane man was straight up that he was taking advantage of us.
  11. chumby New Member

    joined: Oct 20, 2010
    48 posts
    Hartland, Maine
    Ford Ranger: split, stacked responsibly, and mounded is about 1/3 of a cord. Bucked rounds and sticks yields slightly less than that.
  12. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,521 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    When my buddy and I fill his 6 1/2 bed on his pick-up . . . rounds . . . tossed in . . . mounded . . . we figure about 1/3 of a cord of wood.
  13. lukem Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 12, 2010
    3,251 posts
    Indiana
    I can fit slightly over 1/2 cord in my F150 6.5 foot bed when I stack rounds in tight heaped in the middle about halfway up the back glass. Note: this is with standing dead wood. If you tried this with green you would have your hands full driving.
  14. Chargerman Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 22, 2009
    369 posts
    SW Wisconsin
    I get one full cord tossed in my Dodge pretty easy. It has a 8' x 9' flatbed.
  15. wendell Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 29, 2008
    2,026 posts
    Madison, WI
    +1
  16. quads Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 19, 2005
    2,747 posts
    Central Sands, Wisconsin
    +2

    Have done this many times. Jeep Comanche/Chevy S10 tossed in = 1/6 of a cord. Full size pickup tossed in = 1/3 of a cord.

    Neatly stacked you will haul more of course, but I never neatly stack so can't speak from experience there!
  17. CountryBoy19 Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 29, 2010
    565 posts
    Southern IN
    I can say that I have had nearly a full cord of rounds on my shortbed GMC truck before. It was mounded high (at least a full foot higher than the top of the cab) but I was only going 1 mile with it and felt that I could do that safely.

    You certainly wouldn't be able to get away with that in some locations, and I'm sure that if the wrong LEO saw me he would have stopped me and said something, so be careful doing that. If you want to get more than 1/2-3/4 cord on a truck you better build some sides for it. I've often been tempted to do so but normally I can strategically stack it high enough that I'm more worried about the tire load capacity than getting it all on so I haven't bothered with sides yet.
  18. Danno77 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2008
    4,751 posts
    Hamilton, IL
    Me too.

    Stacked nicely in a 6.5ft bed I get almost exactly 1/3 cord when it's even with the rails.
  19. geoffm24 Member

    joined: Sep 1, 2010
    81 posts
    Western MA
    The thing with filling your trucks bed is that it isn't only about the size of the load but also the weight. Load up the bed of you pick up with some wet oak and you are WAY over the recommended weight capacity for the bed. I seem to remember reading a cord can weigh up to about 7,000 pounds when green if it is locust or oak.
  20. Flatbedford Minister of Fire

    Here is picture of 1/2 cord in a full size truck that I copied from a Craig's List ad. It is a pretty good reference.
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  21. aaronl41 New Member

    joined: Dec 22, 2008
    23 posts
    west central MN
    I load until I can't fit any more wood without it falling off, or the rubber bump stops are on the axle. which ever comes first. I don't know of anyone that does it any different. Just don't use one of those wimpy new pickup's (more like a car with a bed), you need something old!!!
  22. weatherguy Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 20, 2009
    2,717 posts
    Central Mass
    Between my brotheres F-150 and my Tacoma we got 1 cord loaded, I have a cap on mine but I was really pushing the weight on it, luckily we didnt have far to travel but I only did that once. Id rather make an extra trip and save the truck. His truck did over 1/2 cord no problem.
  23. CountryBoy19 Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 29, 2010
    565 posts
    Southern IN
    IIRC 6400 for green Osage Orange, Green oak is just under 6k, I'm not sure on locust.

    Most trucks are made to handle a LOT more than their actual ratings. The thing you want to watch most is the load rating on the tires and how the truck handles. If you have a long way to go on overloaded tires you will likely do some permanent damage to the tires, or worse yet, you may experience a blowout. And don't forget that overloaded vehicle handle much differently than when empty. When I load my truck heavy I go slow. I rarely ever get over 45 mph, and sometimes I'll keep down around 30-35mph.
  24. Badfish740 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 3, 2007
    1,170 posts
    I need to invest in stake sides for my truck-though I can very comfortably haul in excess of 3000lbs (I always buy E load range tires) my toolbox is the limiting factor as it essentially turns my fullsize into a shortbed. I was pondering this question recently since the walnut, ash, and pin oak I just came into will probably be 2 cords but it's 40 miles away at my parents' house. Plus my dad has a split cord for me already. We're going to split it all there but it's going to add up to a lot of trips unless I can figure a way to safely stack more in the truck. I suppose I could make some stake sides.
  25. burntime New Member

    joined: Aug 18, 2006
    2,395 posts
    C'mon hunting season!
    Heres the ranger with coil over shocks... More then a face cord but less then a half cord.

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