I hate this Harmon

Kenwheeler Posted By Kenwheeler, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:36 AM

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  1. Delta-T

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    Harman has not changed the supplier of any of their motors, to my knowledge...Fasco,Dayton, Gleason Avery..same same. Some 95%+ of blower motors I replace are killed my rabid dust bunnies....sharp pointy teeth.
     
  2. smoker62

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    Exactly, tires were a bad example. I dont think anyone would blame a brand auto for a bad tire. But any other component on that auto breaks prematurely , more than once , you will blame the manfg. . I doubt if your XYZ Autos electrical system gave you troubles in and out you would say its a lemon , dont buy this brand , piece of garbage, merely by the frustration. Chances are they outsourced the wiring harness and other electrical components to Qoung Dong Electric. Your saying dont blame brand XYZ Auto, just blame Quong Dong ? I doubt that.







     
  3. gbreda

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    Must be one of them 1 Tun Supersax

    To the OP, sorry about the issues your having....kinda stinks
     
  4. lbcynya

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    That's where you and I differ. Maybe that's where our experience differs... I've inspected and researched just about every main component on my stove and Harman has and still does use quality parts. Quality of construction is second to none and ESP control is a thing of beauty. But, everything will fail eventually. Some fail early, some fail late. In the most simplistic terms, it's luck of the draw or law of averages. Trashing a product over a failure which is bound to happen is being a bit juvenile, IMO. I choose not to live my life that way and I'm not one to hand out sympathy in lieu of facts. We're all entitled... If you want simple, buy a cord wood stove (as noted above) and forget all this fancy pellet gismotronic stuff. Use a couple cans with a string over a cell phone... Everything has a price...

    So, let me ask a question - Let's say Harman came up with a P68 stove that would never have a failure, ever - How much would you pay for it? $10k, 15k?, 20k?, more?
     
  5. smoke show

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    That must be one heavy sax.
     

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  6. Kenwheeler

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    Unlike you, I'm not a person that tears apart everything I buy just to see how it works. I find that to be kind of juvenile. I know how to take care of my stuff. I follow the OWNERs MANUAL. How much would I pay for a stove that works? Not sure, I paid $3500 for a Harmon stove that didn't work when I got it and broke down 2 years after that. I bet the next stove doesn't cost near as much. Maybe I'll just chiesel off the name and attach it to the new brand because that's all I paid for with that crappy Harmon.
     
  7. greg13

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    Bottom line is that I don't care what brand of stove you have, If you have failures a month after the warranty expires the dealer SHOULD do something to help. That's just plain good business and the right thing to do.
     
  8. Outerlimits

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    I don't like Harmon either, but I do like Harman. Knock off companies these days. I bet Harmon is made in China too.
     
  9. IHATEPROPANE

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    How much difference can there really be between stoves if they all have the same internal parts???
     
  10. SmokeyTheBear

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    Come now, you don't really want to go there at all, do you?
     
  11. DexterDay

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    If he does? ? ? Let us know. I will get the Popcorn. ;-P
     
  12. Hitch

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    If anyone knows how to make Hermoan, please let me know. I haven't figured that part out yet. :)
     
  13. IHATEPROPANE

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    I bet it would get interesting, but I don't want to change the direction of the thread....
     
  14. jtakeman

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    O' come now it could be fun! ;-)

    Did someone say popcorn! Mmmmm love popcorn and a good show!

    Speaking of show where the heck is he? :cheese:
     
  15. IHATEPROPANE

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    I brought up the point in another thread...hopefully there is some useful feed back that will help current and future pellet stove owners.
     
  16. mjbrown

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    i tried burning pallets in my harmin....but they wouldnt fit in the hopper!
     
  17. lbcynya

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    Geez, it's been in front of us the whole time and I'm embarrassed that I missed it. You must have paid too much for a cheap knockoff called a Harmon. I think those are made in Nigria or Jamaica.

    Here I thought you had a Harman. In that case, Dex will give you a cool $500 for it and you can go get yourself a real stove. Problem solved...I'm out. Enjoy your $3500 paperweight.
     
  18. smoke show

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    Someone mentions a change of thread direction and you think of me?
     
  19. DexterDay

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    Your the 1st that comes to mind. . . ;-P

    Ibcynya - I would def give $500. Or trade??? I have a Great working Quad that has had NO issues.

    Just sayin.....
     
  20. DexterDay

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    Nope...

    Well... I changed the ignitor out and the Door gasket at the end of last season. Old ignitor is still good. Had 3 misfires last season. Did it as a P.M.
    Gasket was Bad.... But other than that... No problems. At all. Other than I want another stove....

    Thats it... Period. Im one of the few to sell a good working stove, with lots of parts, to get a better stove. With more users input.

    Dont use it much at all now. Because of furnace. But I still want a freestanding upstairs for warmer nights , around 35°-40°.
     
  21. Eatonpcat

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    In your opinion...How many months after the warranty expires, is the dealer responsible??


    At Dex, don't be so quick to sell your stove, I was counting (hopefully) on taking that stove off your hands when you sell it...My barn is begging me for some heat!!
     
  22. smoke show

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    Had to ask, lotsa quad haters lately.

    At least its not a Whoremoan. :lol:

    Thats your opinion, and I respect that.
     
  23. Eatonpcat

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    Just what I suspected...SE PA, In the SW, corner of the state, all the men know how to make Hermoan... Stomp on her toes and she will squeal like a stuck pig!!!
     
  24. 3650

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    im not crazy about my harman either, thats why its a back up to my cumberland.
     
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