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I just stumbled upon FisherStovesUSA dot com 2012

Post in 'The Boiler Room - Wood Boilers and Furnaces' started by Todd67, Jul 1, 2012.

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  1. Todd67

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    This was an interesting find on youtube today. It popped up when I typed "fisher stoves" in the youtube search bar. They are advertising 2 sizes of outdoor wood furnaces called the Papa Bear and the Grandpa Bear. The web site uses Bob's "Fisher Stoves" logo and mentions the business he started in 1973. There is a contact phone number for you to call if you are trying to find a dealer, and another option tab if you want to become a dealer, but it gives no names to contact. Makes me wonder who is running the business, or if Bob even knows about it.

    I know this doesn't exactly fit in the Pre-EPA woodstove forum idea, but it appears to be a continuation of the Fisher Brand.

    Todd

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  2. coaly

    coaly Fisher Moderator Staff Member

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    Bob and Carol were the original owners listed as Bobcar Farms and left it expire. As far as I know the Fisher logo is still a current trademark owned in Canada, off the coast of Washington, where they were made at Northwest Stoves. It may have expired and been picked up by someone else or sold. (or being used illegally) This is the logo in a circle, and notice there is no circle around it.

    http://fisherstovesusa.com/







    I think this will get more views in the outdoor boiler and furnace forum, so I moved it.

    http://fisherstovesusa.com/

    This is Larry from Biomass Direct, same product here; http://biomass-direct.com/
    I believe he sold and called them "Free Heat Machines" aka Timber Ridge owned by Tim Arrowood, now defunct years ago? Thoughts??
  3. Todd67

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    Yep, I see the resemblence in both brands of wood furnaces. I figured if anyone knew something about this new line of products, it would be you. Thanks.
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    coaly Fisher Moderator Staff Member

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    Now this is funny;

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    Todd67 New Member

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    Amazing that you found this video as fast as you did, Lol. You must have been working as fast as Larry was when he was moving all that wood. This is why it's important to have a rock solid network of honest, knowledgeable wood stove guru's like yourself. Again, thanks for the laugh.
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    Wow! Talk about the old heat it up and suffocate the fire to charcoal so nobody "knows" there is no smoke....... Keep that fan on for more than 30 seconds! He's just using the hot water in the stove to claim it keeps it at 170::F

    It was great for a laugh!! Especially the last one, the guy says he can't feel the heat from the fire, but there is magically 167 degree air from the fan coil.

    Taylor
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    I believe he goes by the name Larry Boyd, and it appears "Fisher Stoves USA" is his 3rd company, and he has made a bunch of enemies with customers that have bought his outdoor wood furnace products, and then not backing up his products. Google search his name and you'll be hard pressed to find any positive comments on other forums. Now it appears he's going to ruin the Fisher Stoves name as well!
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    His "A different kind of gassification" line is about the biggest red flag I've ever heard.

    Taylor
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    6 sticks of wood for being gone several days... R I G H T!
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    coaly Fisher Moderator Staff Member

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    Larry K. Boyd to be exact. GOTCHA KIRBY

    This is the only public information I can post;

    63 from Johnson City, TN. NOW IN Unicoi, TN. (not far from the fabrication shop in Elizabethton) Address corresponds to his wife listed as a daughter in his mother in law's obituary, May 2011;
    http://hosting-13000.tributes.com/show/Catherine-Katie-Marsh-91466408

    Data from Dun and Bradstreet;
    3 affiliated companies and corresponding people Jonesborough, TN;

    Timber Ridge Inc. aka Free Heat Machine; Timothy P Arrowood Pres., Larry Boyd Vice Pres., Connie L Arrowood Secretary, Sharon Summers Office Mgr.

    Maxx R Pipe Insulation Systems (Larry Boyd and Connie Arrowood)

    Biomass-Direct ( Biomass Energy Systems LLC )
    (Tim and Larry owning Timber Ridge Inc. patented the Solid fuel burning furnace having a burn control stack in 2004 and has changed furnace names twice to avoid warranty issues)
    US Pat. No. US20050205079; http://acuteip.com/patents/case/10804951

    Fisher Stoves is the new name being used.

    Disgruntled customers,
    http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T9DSOFTSOHK5U6PMH

    Free Heat Machine after 4 years use - Condensation issues persist ;

  12. Todd67

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    Wow! Looks like some people burn wood faster than it can grow (referring to the giant wood pile from that video link). We keep our house around 60-65 during the winter months. We also plant trees every year, otherwise wood is NOT a renewable energy source. I'd like to have a bunch of those damaged trees from the recent storm in the mid-atlantic states right now. I wonder how many of those trees will go to waste.

    I really hate it for these outdoor furnace customers who got ripped off by Larry and others just like him. Seems ike there's nothing they can do. Also seems like none of Larry's stove businesses have ever been listed with the better business bureau, or at least none that I could find. I might be wrong...
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    OMG - that pile of wood. 20 cord for a couple of months? 'Free Heat Machine' - OK.

    Looks like it was cut last week too.

    There's so much wrong with all of this.

    'Free Heat' - sorry, can't stop myself from laughing just a little bit the whole way thru typing this.

    Feel sorry for those that got stung though.
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    Hopefully, all those affected before have filed complaints through the Better Business Bureau. He hasn't applied for BBB accreditation with his Fisher Stoves USA brand... I just checked! I'm a firm believer in Karma, what comes around goes around.
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    I can't find his name in any of the research I've done on the original Fisher Stoves. There doesn't appear to be any truth to a statistic as far as who was the top or largest distributor of Fisher Stoves. Maybe he is talking about the new Fisher Stoves USA OWB, because that might be a true claim. I would think that anyone who makes that claim would be on the Fisher Stoves forum that Coaly moderates, helping answer questions that people have about the original Fisher Stoves products. I just find it very strange that he is pushing his 3rd different product line of OWB's in just a few short years. Given his reputation with his other products lines, I wouldn't buy any of his products. But that's just my opinion.
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    I just read on page 123 of the Fisher Stove story that at a 1977 Fisher Stoves National convention there were some awards handed out. The Dunn Brothers received a large silver trophy for the largest number of units sold, and the Hawks came in 2nd. Ron Correll won for the highest number of sales based on population. After reading the book twice now, I don't recall seeing Larry Boyd mentioned in the Fisher Stove story.
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    Ouch NBowman! Welcome to Hearth.com, I'm sorry to hear of your 4G loss! Stick around, it's going to get busy here during the heating season.

    TS
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    Why isn't this guy in JAIL? If I stole anyone's money....... especially 8K, I know I would be.

    TS
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    WOW! I'd start taking my vaca time and follow this guy around once in a while. Go to the big shows and hand out my receipts of money lost/swindled. Just do this when he starts to round up the crowds, and steal the show from him. Just go with the attitude to have fun, sit back and enjoy. Don't make it personal, it's just business. If done correctly, you would be in you legal right to do it, I would think. It wouldn't do him any terrible damage, if he's this type of person, he'll never change. Chances are, he's swindled all his life and will continue to do so. Screw over the right redneck and he will find out personally how big(and hot) that firebox is.
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    ;lol;lol Thanks FC just made my whole day. BTW I completely agree.
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    I can hear it now........"Honey, I think I'm gonna take some vacation time".........."Good for you dear"............"I'm gonna hunt down that guy who has our 4Gs".........."Oh, sweetie, I'll pack your stuff right now!!"

    TS
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    Sorry about your loss.... You seem to have a good attitude about the situation.

    Sooner or later he will get what he has coming. Karma is a Bi#¢# and those who run, normally end up with no place left to run.

    Hope you have a speedy recovery from your accident.
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    Karma?...Yah maybe. What goes around comes around sooner or later.

    I'd tend to think that payback will be hell, maybe literally, when he meets face to face with the guy who originally said the "Thou shalt not steal" thing.....!!!
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    2012 OFFICIAL STATEMENT – BIOMASS DIRECT, LLC

    Larry Boyd, the owner Biomass Direct, LLC (manufacturer of Fisher Stoves), worked for Timber Ridge, Inc. as a salesman, designer, driver and video personality. He did not have decision-making power within the company. The president of Timber Ridge, Inc. made the decision to close its doors for good due to the constant downturn of the economy.

    Biomass Direct, LLC was founded after Timber Ridge, Inc. was closed, and has no affiliation with the aforementioned company.

    Please see our About page for more details. (http://biomass-direct.com/about.html)


    Thank you,

    Biomass Direct, LLC
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    This thread just struck gold.
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