I want my 4.5 cuft Cat Cast Iron Stove and I want it NOW.

How does one check out the new cast iron BK? I didn't think any details had been released yet.

The BK medium stoves are confusing. They are both about 2.75 CF, the chinook has 30 hour burn time and 76% efficiency. The princess has 20 hour burntime and 86% efficiency. Same wood load. It appears as though the chinook firebox is allowed to be run at a much much lower output level but overall is less efficient. Let's hope the new stoves use the new CBT 2.75 CF firebox like the chinook.

Nothing on the BK site about any new stoves, nothing cast iron yet.

Your right, there haven't been many details yet, last I heard from BKVP was more details to come shortly and a release date of late 2012. If this new stove holds a couple more sticks than his current stove and has a more even long burn it might be the ticket Jags is looking for.

I called BK about this on Monday, relaying the information posted here to the woman who answered the phone. She put me on hold to discuss with someone else, and then came back and stated BKVP was not correct in giving a fall 2012 release date. I was told the earliest possible release date of this stove is March 2013. They did not yet have any info to provide on size, appearance, required clearances, or performance specifications. I'm not sure who was providing the information, as the woman who was on the phone with me had to keep putting me on hold to relay my questions to another party.

I pushed her for more information, stating I'd be interested in the BK but would have to buy a different stove if they could not at least provide me some basic information by October, but she simply said they were too early in the design and development cycle to discuss any particulars.

I cannot fathom either one of them touching a piece of firewood.... note I said firewood

So rather than kick BK in the butt for being ugly and not making cast stoves, why aren't we kicking all other manufactures for not developing better air control systems?

If someone chips in the difference in the cost of the Englaner 30 ($899) I'll buy one this month. And I'm serious.

Yes, I agree. The BK t-stat and air control has to have something to do with those long burns. I really don't understand why all manufactures don't do this? Why wouldn't you want more control?

Why wouldn't a company like VC go to BK and say "we're great at making good looking cast iron stoves. What can you do for us in terms of cat technology, t-stat, and air controls."

I mean, VC has taken a pounding the last 10+ years. Why not look for some joint venture that could quickly repair their reputation. Yes, the 2-in-1 stoves are a big improvement from the previous generation, but they are still a distant third in terms of cat efficiency.

I was quietly thinking the same thing. VC is the biggest contract casting house in the American stove industry, and I assume BK has no foundry of their own. It seems likely they'd have VC casting their new stove for them.

If I had known about this, I would have at least looked into it before I bought my Enerzone. I wanted their largest model- the 3.4, but the damn thing only came with a pedestal base.

Now, if I still have doubts on my enerzone after 3 years (and I now have a 3 year supply of wood to find out with...) an 80's Defiant WILL be replacing it, 8" stack and all.

What can I say, no TV, and crappy internet service, I have to look at the stove for 6 months out of the year (when I'm not shoveling/plowing/blowing snow or up to my knees in mud from the snowmelt). I at least want something I can tolerate looking at, not just a steel box.

I wonder how the Regency F5100 will perform. http://www.regency-vision.com/product-f5100.php

Oh yeah. Forgot about that one. It was big news for a minute. Somebody better get one.

Note the OP was looking for something more attractive than a BK King.

I figured/thought it was better looking than the BKK, just not cast like Jags is looking for. I guess I was wrong! You guys are much to picky.

I don't think the F5100 is that bad looking, I would prefer it with legs vs. the pedestal though. It actually looks kind of like the Sirocco from Blaze King. I wonder why BK doesn't just make a 4 cu. ft version of the Sirocco? I would actually have one of those in my house. Heck they could even just put a cast iron wrapping on it like the Alderlea or offer it in plain steel.

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It has the option to come with legs. It's on my list for the new house