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ideal operating temperatures

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by steven schultz, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. steven schultz

    steven schultz New Member

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    Hello -
    first, apologies if this has been covered, and thanks in advance for pointers to any threads I've missed.
    Three questions related to my VC Winterwarm (small) catalytic insert:
    1) what temperature should the stove reach before engaging the cat?
    2) what is the max operating temp for the stove?
    3) I recently obtained an infrared thermometer - where would be a good place to take readings? The top plate on the outside? Or, inside the stove on the iron side wall? (my temp gun goes to 950-degrees F)
    Thank you!

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  2. BrowningBAR

    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Not many Winerwarm owners here.

    With good dry wood you can engage the cat at lower temps. The Encore I engage the cat at higher temps as it seems to work better that way. The Defiant I engage the cat as low as 300.

    Hard to say what the operating temp are for your insert as I have never owned one and insert temps are different than stove temps.
  3. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    To add to the confusion... I needed to get my stovetop temp up to 550F before engaging, when I kept my thermometer on the top-load door. Now that I have a pot of water sitting there, I moved my thermometer to the front right corner if the stovetop. I find I need to engage when that spot reads 275 - 300F.
  4. steven schultz

    steven schultz New Member

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    Thank you very much. I have a question in to the folks at VC and will report the results if I hear back.
    The temperatures you cite - are those the actual surface metal temperatures as opposed to the adjusted reading that some stick-on thermometers give (to simulate the inside temp)?
    Thanks again.
  5. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    I would like to see one of those. Got a link?
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    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    If more insert owners realized that we would see fewer posts about cracked inserts.
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    HotCoals Minister of Fire

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    Its my understanding that any surface mount thermometer only gives you about half of what the temp is inside.
    Others might know diff..I dunno.
  8. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

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    The inside and surface temps will never track by any standard offset or ratio. They are decoupled by time and by what is happening outside the stove. You can find a range of temperatures of more than 200F on various surfaces of your stove, and any of them can be drastically altered by circulating a little air around the stove, all while not really affecting internal temps much.

    Maybe one could find some steady-state offset, for a given install under "normal" conditions, whatever they may be. However, with a wood fire being very dynamic (no continuous addition of fuel), it's tough to even find a steady-state condition.
  9. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Is what he said. Nothing about inside temps or half anything. Mag thermos show surface metal temp. I wanna see one of those with "adjusted reading". >>

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