I know his guy through the XF site....he runs one of the largest tech sites on the web. Quite a story! Gives a little insight into how even eBay deceives! I like the part about him making a cool million in one month and then having to buy a car for his eBay contact! Wow. I gotta take some lessons from Shawn..... http://blogs.digitalpoint.com/entry.php?b=215 Oh, this is the dude who wrote the program that puts the ads in the middle of (or after) posts!