Well didnt take much to convince the better half. She enjoys the heat aa much as i enjoy playing with them. However the placements have me puzzeled. Im thinking the fireview in a family room for the long burns and steady heat where i spend most of the time. SS lined 15' insulated. I think the jotul may get the backup in the basement, 8x8 clay about 25'....hard as i havent had a full season with her and has not let us down. Hate to pull a starter whos been doing well for another... Oh if only they didnt weigh 500 lbs and i could change them like socks.