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Jotul Oslo - necessary to empty ash pan?

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Kitchen, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. Kitchen

    Kitchen New Member

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    I have had a Hearthstone Heritage stove for many years and have to admit that I have very rarely cleaned out the ashes using the ash pan. I don't burn 24x7 and like to empty the ashes by shoveling them out the front door and just leave about an inch on the bottom.

    I'm replacing this stove with a Jotul Oslo and probably will continue the same practice. Is it necessary to empty the ashes using the ash pan or can I continue the same shoveling method?

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  2. Blue Vomit

    Blue Vomit Minister of Fire

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    It is certainly not necessary to use the ash pan. Do what you are comfortable doing. Whatever works for you. The only thing I would suggest is using the side door to shovel ashes. One common complaint about the Oslo is ash spillage out the front door. I hardly ever open it.
    Good luck.
  3. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    I hear that all the time on here. I never thought it was a big deal. It wasn't any worse than other stoves I've had in the past. The only one that didn't spill out the front was Blaze King.

    I really like ashpans. They are a PITA if you don't dump the pan regularly, if you don't keep up with it, ashes will fall into the bottom when the pan is removed.
    If kept up with, the ashpan can make the whole process alot cleaner in my experience.
  4. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    I used the pan originally on the Castine, but after a season I let the pan fill up with ash and just shoveled. This worked well for me. I got longer burn times and less ash dust in the house because I was only cleaning out the stove once ever 2-4 weeks.
  5. Kevin Dolan

    Kevin Dolan Burning Hunk

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    Begreen why do you think not emptying the ashes only 2-4 weeks apart helped you get longer burn times and how did you deal with the ash bed buildup in the stove bottom. I do agree not cleaning out as frequently reduces the amount of ash dust floating around. Always interested in longer burn times info on the castine.
    Kevin
  6. lumbering on

    lumbering on Feeling the Heat

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    It's been suggested to me to leave the ash pan full to slow down the burn rate in a downdraft stove. Does this really work? How does it work?
  7. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    That would only make a difference if the stove had leaks down below.
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    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    I find that using a shovel to empty the stove is super messy. If I use the ashpan(before it's overflowing)there is way less mess.
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  9. Kevin Dolan

    Kevin Dolan Burning Hunk

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    Webby I do like the ash pan but was interested in understanding how shovelling the ashes less often helpswithnlonger burns. I used to always shovel out of my old dragon and it was messy.
  10. Butcher

    Butcher Minister of Fire

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    I clean the ash pan in march or april depending on the weather that year. The Oslo does have a serious problem with ash spillage when using the pan or the front door. The only time I even open the front door on mine is to clean the glass which is about once a month. I shovel out the side and load with the side door. Thats just me though. Your milage may vary.
  11. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    I think the fire worked better with an insulated bed of ash under it.
  12. Nick Mystic

    Nick Mystic Minister of Fire

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    I think when you leave the ashes build up in your stove they seem to reach a certain level and then they taper off. I think if you keep burning hot fires with your ashes in the stove some of them must get burned up, or at least get pulverized more to reduce their volume. This has been the case with every stove I've burning in over the years.
  13. webby3650

    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    Give the Oslo ashpan a try, especially since you don't burn 24/7 anyway. I bet you will like it! It's a great feature that I think most people don't take advantage of.
  14. remkel

    remkel Minister of Fire

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    I have the 600 and utilize the ashpan. Only recommendation I would have is when you empty the pan you do it outside. I find it produces a lot of dust.
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    webby3650 Master of Fire

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    It sure will when it's dumped. I use a 35 gallon steel can with a lid. It sits on the patio, In the spring I dump it.
  16. remkel

    remkel Minister of Fire

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    Same practice here. Smaller can, though.
  17. jotul8e2

    jotul8e2 Feeling the Heat

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    The large ash pan of the Oslo was one of the deciding factors when I chose my stove. In use I find, for whatever reason, my Oslo will not burn well once the ashes accumulate to the bottom grill. In fact, this often is how I find that the pan needs to be emptied. My theory is that the Oslo needs the space under the grill for the air circulation pattern. However, others say theirs actually burns better with the pan full.

    There was a long thread on this very topic just a couple of weeks ago. In fact, I think there was a poll attached.
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  18. adrpga498

    adrpga498 Minister of Fire

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    I empty the ash pan on a reload with only a small coal bed. Helpful hint, I open the front door a bit (prior to ash pan door ) this seems to reduce the blast furnace effect quite a bit.
  19. remkel

    remkel Minister of Fire

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    On the Oslo, open the side door.....same effect. I open the side door of the 600 when emptying the ash pan when I have some hot coals present.
  20. Stubborn Dutchman

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    I find the ash pan on my F600 to be very efficient when dumped before it overflows. Open the door, remove pan, close door, dump pan outside, and replace pan. Simple as that and minimal dust created indoors. Plus I'm not scooping up any coals.
  21. firefighterjake

    firefighterjake Minister of Fire

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    The Oslo ash pan works quite well . . . that said . . . some folks shovel out the ashes and are also just as happy as us ash pan lovers.
  22. eyefish2

    eyefish2 New Member

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    I am an Oslo ash pan user. I burn approx 5 days a week on evenings and overnight and empty the pan approx every two weeks. If it is allowed to get too full, it will make a mess when you pull it from the stove. Seems to be very little waste of unburned coal.

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