Log 4 ID...I'm Thinking Red Oak

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    Cut this one up too today. It has leaves and a little birdie told me pointed oak leaves are red oak and rounded are white oak.;)
     

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    To me it looks like pin oak aka black oak.
     
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    Just when you think your getting a handle on this...another twist in the learning curve. I'll split some tomorrow to help the id.

    Thanks Smokin,
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    Pic 6 screams pin oak........And that is the only way I can id oak. Now if it was deep bark its red and a little like silver maple bark its white. Splits probably will not help. Red oak you can see the bark in my avatar.:)
     
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    Pinkish-red to dark reddish brown - Red Oak group.Light tan to medium brown - White Oak group.Bur Oak is a White Oak,can sometimes be darker brown yet.
     
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    what about the picture with the leaves???? does pin and red have same leaves??
     
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    Not for me it doesn't, but the Smooooth bark does. lol
     
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    The color of Red and Black Oak is pretty much the same...both are sold as Red Oak lumber. Pin Oak, the wood won't look as red. Shingle Oak...I split a little recently...I don't remember but I think maybe it was less red. All of these are members of the Red Oak group and will season and burn about the same. Good stuff! :cool:
     
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    Around here anyway, the Reds have fuller, wider leaves and the Pins have deeper sinuses between the lobes.

    Red:
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    Black is somewhere between the two. Notice that the sinuses are angled more toward the top of the leaf. That said, there can be so much variation in the leaves or the bark of two trees of the same specie, that it sometimes becomes a guessing game unless you're an expert...which I am not. Acorns really help to ID the Oaks...

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    Thats a Red oak.
     
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    Those leaves look like Red Oak or maybe Black Oak. The leaves of Pin Oak have deeper sinuses. I'd say the bark looks more like Red Oak than Black Oak. In the picture with the two rounds, the lower round seems to have the shiny ridges of a Red Oak, rather than the tire tread appearance of Black Oak bark, but the bark is hard to ID from a single piece. If you can see the whole tree you get a better impression of the bark.
     
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    Red Oak, who cares what subspecies!
     
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    another vote for red oak. Either way, a great overnight wood once it is seasoned (around 2 to 3 years!) Split it up ASAP and get 'er stacked, it will pay great BTU dividends down the road!
     
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    Red Oak is nicknamed piss oak. You'll smell that from miles away until it's cured.

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    I've dedicated my life to getting bogged down in irrelevant details and I'm not about to stop now! ;lol
     
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    From a guy who was in the logging buzz that I have heard you say many times. Its like getting paid or your not. This load no dought came from loggers what oak you think they would prefer to sale as firewood?
     
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    My vote is for Red Oak. Whatever species of oak it is, it will treat you well in 3 years!
     
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    Big differences red oak 3 yes. Pin white oak one year!
     
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    Pin white oak one year to season???
     
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    Whoops. Here we have a bit of difference Jay. I say pin (which is a red oak) takes as long as red to dry.

    Here is a pin oak I cut:

    Pin oak cut-2.JPG
     
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    I did not have any issues with pin last year now thats was in my furnace though. Glad all I have now is white oak (Two ricks of red 3 years old Jan.) and mulberry. Oh and an epa stove times are changing! (Its going to be a cold day in *ell when I fire the beast again)
     
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    You'll be happy Jay! I could use some of that white oak here.
     
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    Got lucky 3 big white oaks this year and cleared a farmers fence lines of mulberry last winter. Still got two big mulberry's waiting on leaves. Oh and a epa stove lol Best move ever!
     
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