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  1. weatherguy Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 20, 2009
    2,716 posts
    Central Mass
    $60 is cheap, I cant add anything everyone has already said but if you only have 3-4 cords to split this one time I would do it. If you plan on 4 cords every year then Id look to buy one. I plan on burning til I cant lift a splt and scrounge my wood so Im going to upgrade soon from my little 5 ton to a bigger splitter.
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  2. nate379 Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 21, 2010
    3,984 posts
    Palmer, Alaska
    The $300 electric splitters work well... might be something to consider? That is what I use for my 3-4 cords a year.
  3. kevin j Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 21, 2008
    530 posts
    minnesota us
    for that price rent it. then make notes and see what you like or don't like. Rent once or twice more, or use the next 6 months until you need it again to find the machine you really want. I own 1/4 share in a $1000 machine, long ago paid for my investment, but I learend a lot using or renting others to see what I liked. And what we ended up buying was not where we started.
    Afte that, being able to maintain it and know the reliability makes it worth while for me.

    k
  4. greg13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 5, 2012
    372 posts
    CNY
    Call me a lier, but I can tell you we did it. It was a long day of non stop splitting, but preparation is the key. BTW, we are talking FACE cords, not many people talk full cords around here.

    That was 20+years ago, could I do it today, No way
  5. Jags Super Moderator

    joined: Aug 2, 2006
    11,254 posts
    Northern Illinois
    you BETTER take that back. Thems fight'in words.::P;lol
  6. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,753 posts
    Hudson Valley NY

    Most folks talk full cords on Hearth.com and those that do not usually use the term "face cord" to avoid confusion. 50 Face Cord is still over 16 full cord and that would be impressive. We have another saying around here: "Pics or it didn't happen!" >>
  7. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    His "here" must be a different here than our "here". :rolleyes:

    A cord is a cord, namely 128 cu ft. Anything less is a fraction of a cord. We don't need to clarify by saying "full cord". Ony the face corders need to clarify so as not to be called out as a liar.

    16 cord in a day while impressive, is not implausible given a mix of the right size and type of wood, the work area, and a well oiled workforce.
  8. smokinj Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 11, 2008
    15,410 posts
    Anderson, Indiana
    Nothing goes perfect and you would need 16 hours of perfection. (3 shifts even to keep everyone fresh)
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  9. Dune Minister of Fire

    Try to find a rental from a store closed on sunday. Rent it sat and return monday morning. This is a common ploy here, and the stores don't mind.
  10. Scotty Overkill firewood hoarder

    joined: Sep 24, 2011
    6,761 posts
    central PA
    Brian I bought my splitter on craigslist, it's a Swisher 22 ton vertical/horizontal (I almost ALWAYS use it vertical), it was used only THREE TIMES and put on craigslist! I picked it up for a measly 800 bucks! It still had the tags and owners manual tethered on the engine! So there are deals here locally, watch all the classifieds and have the money ready to go!
  11. NH_Wood Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 24, 2009
    2,236 posts
    southern NH
    Only thing I'll add is that if you do rent, try to have as much of the tougher rounds ready to go first, and the easier stuff last. If you run out of time, you're not left trying to split the tougher rounds by hand. Cheers!
    Scotty Overkill and TreePointer like this.
  12. TreePointer Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 22, 2010
    1,284 posts
    Western PA
    Totally agree! Especially since I've never seen a fast cycle or multi-way wedge.rental splitter.
  13. Pallet Pete Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 27, 2011
    3,162 posts
    Ovid MI
    I rent one when I need one but that is not often my little 4 ton does a good job. My problem is I want one to use whenever but I can't find a good compact splitter other than my electric which makes rental convenient. if storage is an issue or your only gonna use it a couple times a year then rent it and save space.

    Pete
  14. greg13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 5, 2012
    372 posts
    CNY
    That's the "Weekend deal" pretty much the standard of the industry. What you want to find is the places like our's that are closed on Saturday too. Many places that are open Saturday may offer Sat. & Sun. for an extra 1/2 day rate.
    Even during the 5 months that we are open 1/2 day Saturday, we still make deals from Fri. PM through Monday AM. The machines don't make ANY money sitting in the showroom.
    Dune likes this.
  15. BrianK Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 26, 2011
    419 posts
    West central PA
    That's what they do here at one rental outfit. The other is open Sundays and offers no type of discount.
  16. LLigetfa Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 9, 2008
    7,310 posts
    NW Ontario
    Always check the fine print on the rental agreement. A one day rental does not always mean upto 24 hours of runtime. Some rental outfits consider 8 hours of runtime to be a one day rental and charge extra if you go over.
  17. greg13 Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 5, 2012
    372 posts
    CNY
    8 Hr of runtime is the standard, but most places don't run hour meters on small engines.
  18. TreePointer Minister of Fire

    joined: Sep 22, 2010
    1,284 posts
    Western PA
    FWIW, the two times we rented from Home Depot, we got a SpeeCo 25-ton model with no hour meter. It was simply a 24 hour rental.
  19. Bigg_Redd Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 19, 2008
    2,939 posts
    Shelton, WA
    If all you are doing is splitting, and assuming you are of average health and fitness, it is not unreasonable to split a whole year's worth of wood (3-5 cord) in a day.

    At $1200 dollars, which is what the Huskee 22 ton splitters are going for at the feed store (and which represent the bottom of the market), it'll take you 20 years to break even over renting, and that is assuming your splitter lasts 20 years and never breaks down.
  20. Bigg_Redd Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 19, 2008
    2,939 posts
    Shelton, WA
    Bah. . .

    I can split a cord per hour (give or take) by hand. With a 2.25lb Fiskars Pro Splitting Axe.
  21. MasterMech Minister of Fire

    joined: Aug 2, 2011
    4,753 posts
    Hudson Valley NY
    My local True-Value was renting a I & O 20-Ton Fast Cycle up until this year. Switched to a 26 Ton unit like mine.

    Our local Heavy Equipment dealership/rental rents Timberwolf splitters with hydraulically adjusted 4-ways. ::-)

    Pete have you seen this one yet?



    http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/...SPG-3-GOOGLE&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse
  22. Bigg_Redd Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 19, 2008
    2,939 posts
    Shelton, WA
  23. ISeeDeadBTUs Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 7, 2007
    2,241 posts
    NY
    I could probably accumulate a cord an hour splitting by hand (MM) if

    It was all fresh cut ash, red oak and Aspen

    I was splitting for my boiler, which means I probably split every fourth chunk

    The weather was cool and I had no interuptions

    Oh, yeah, I could probably keep up that pace for 1 - 1 1/2 hours.

    The poster seems to indicate that 4 men with one hydraulic splitter could split 16 cord on one work day. Assuming they are splitting most every chunk - I'm not saying he's a liar - but he's having a little trouble recalling correctly.

    Best case scenario - take 36,000 seconds (10 hour day) divided by the cycle time in seconds. Theory this is the maximum # of strokes. Assume each piece is split once to make two pieces, so multiply by two to determine maximum number of pieces.

    I'll leave it someone else to figure out how many pieces to a cord.

    You'll see there just ain't enough time in the day. Let alone breakdowns, sore backs, snack breaks, refuel breaks, multiple-pass splits, yada,yada,yada.
  24. kettensäge Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jan 18, 2011
    445 posts
    N.E. PA.
    I wanted to rent one once. Called the rental place and they were repairing the only one they had to rent, said the previous renter damaged it and they didn't know when it would be ready. Figured I didn't want to take a chance for a variety of reasons and bought my MTD a few days later. That was in '05 IIRC. I like owning my own and there should always be some residual value in a splitter if it is kept in good working order.
  25. Bigg_Redd Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 19, 2008
    2,939 posts
    Shelton, WA
    I routinely split a cord per hour if it's Doug Fir, bigleaf maple, or red alder. A cord of hemlock will usually add 10-15 minutes. 16'-18' rounds. If you're managing only 1/2 cord per hour with a splitter. . .

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