Looking to get a bigger wood stove. New to wood burning

Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Longpond paperboy, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. Longpond paperboy

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    Hi everyone.

    I have been burning wood for about a month. I enjoy everything about it. I am sure that will wear off. I have a small upland 17. That is located in my sunroom and provides heat for my living room and kitchen and bedroom doors if I leave them open.

    I am looking to get a Energy Harvester MC. I want to get more burn time and be able to burn a larger piece of wood. Attached are the pictures and the guy is asking 450. It is completely re furnished. What are your thoughts? What is my upland worth? It is also re finished. Should I upgrade? Thanks
     

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    Welcome, paperboy! :)
    I would look for an EPA stove (post-1990) that re-burns the smoke, either with a catalytic combustor or burn tubes in the top of the fire box. More heat with less wood, and a clean burn.
     
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    i looked at differant sized stoves and I liked the large firebox on the englander 30 and the price at home depot was 699. I am very happy with it. And the glass in the door makes the fire look nicer.
     
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    I say don't buy it, for a couple hundred bucks more you can get the latest burning technology. You can burn longer, cleaner, and use less wood doing so. Just my opinion. Plus get a glass door and look at the fire. Burning wood and giving the gas man the middle finger is still fun.
     
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    Keep looking. You can find far better deals in the $400-600 range on CraigsList.
     
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    I don't need the glass. I nice strong work horse that looks nice in the summer time. My house is rustic with tounge and groove pen walls. So the design fits perfect. It is just a perfect size because where it is located i need it more deep than wide stove. Is there a EPA model stove that measure 15 to 18 wide by 25 to 34 deep
     
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    Sorry for the typos
     
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    First how many square feet is your home and do you want to heat it all ? This is very important in the stove decision. There are stoves in that range on craigslsit that are EPA as woody stover pointed out. I would also think about setting away 2 years of split wood due to EPA stoves needing good dry wood . They are far more efficient take less wood throw heat longer and will be less work all around.

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    My house is small about 1200. Kitchen and living room are in one big room and there are 2 bedrooms off that. One is my daughters room the other is her play room. My bedroom is thru a hall. This use to be a car port they converted. I live in a converted cottage. I attached some pictures. I have a picture of my fireplace that has a gas insert. It will get to hot if I get one there. Thanks Brandon
     

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    Brandon that is a beautiful home you have. I would be looking for something along the lines of http://www.homedepot.com/buy/englander-1-200-sq-ft-wood-stove-17-vl.html#.UNOvWaXv6s0 you could heat your home and possibly use less wood. You can find a lot of good 1200 sq ft stoves under $800 and you would benefit greatly by investing in something that would heat your home if you are going to spend the money. I am assuming you are on a budget for the stove of course ??

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    Yes. I want to make sure it works for us. Also the house is a converted cottage and I am not sure how much longer the termites can stay holding hands. It has a crawl space. But dirt under very damp, buggy, a lot of rot. We have a five year plan of knocking it down. We use to heat the house with that propane insert only. It is 38k btu. We keep it on low and it works great a $275 a month. I like older cast iron. But I like the sound of burning less and getting more.
     
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    I don't like the look of glass. I would rather a mystery black box that puts out heat. The guy that has the other stove may take mine in trade so it might only cost me 300
     
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    Good to know.
     
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    I like this option more than the Englander 13. It should offer better burn times.
     
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    Gotta ask, what makes this a slightly better stove than the 13?
    I saw log length of 18" for the TN19, but don't know if this is good for N/S & E/W. That would be a significant benefit over the 13.
    I also don't know the cost diff. I'm calling a dealer tomorrow to check, but it had better be close to the current cost of the 13's.
    Anyone with any current pricing info. on these?
    Does the 18" rating go both N/S and E/W ?
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    Sorry Longpond, didn't mean to hi-jack. This information could be useful to you though, before you make the investment in a new stove. Lots of stuff out there.
     
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    If I remember correctly it has a bit larger of a firebox and PE stoves tend to have reports showing that they have longer burn times then a lot of other non-cat stoves. The 13 has a relatively short burn time of around 5 hours.

    I believe the price for the TrueNorth is just south of $900. Could have sworn it was posted here before.
     
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    No problem Beetle. This is great Information. I like that true north stove. I am going to start looking for one now. Anyone looking for an Upland 17? or maybe I can put it in the shed.
     
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    Is this a good stove for $500.00 Vermont Castings, Defiant Encore, top and front load 3I13J73He5Nb5Gb5F3cci7435ca73e295134a.jpg
     
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    They also have decent clearance requirements, and require only ember protection.

    Not sure about the VC stove, but the resident expert will be up soon.
     
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    When we where looking pacific energy had a little air mechanism in the back of the box that opened up when it got down to coals in order to burn longer. I don't remember what it was called but it is very effective.

    Pete
     
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    I agree on the True North and it only requires an ember protection hearth.. The 13NC has stout requirements and for me that is a show stopper. I think you'll like watching the secondary burns Brandon .. There is a PE dealer in S. Dartmouth, this is where I bought my stove.. I would think you could get an 8+ hr. burn with the True North which works well for 24/7 heating which you want to achieve.. Right now the floor models are 15% off which is what I bought and it was display only and never burned in..

    http://www.hearthheatinginc.com/

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    Vermont Castings makes some beautiful stoves, but they have a reputation for requiring more maintenance than most, due to their numerous gaskets. If you're the type who likes to tinker, then it might not be a bad stove. If you want to just install it and use it, and not be bothered with summer rebuild projects, it may not be the best stove for you.

    BAR is our resident VC expert... I'm sure he'll have more to add.

    Did you mention where you live? If so, I missed it. Important info for picking a stove.
     
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