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Missing Thermostat lever for defiant.

Post in 'Vermont Castings & CDW Dutchwest older Models' started by HotLogs, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. HotLogs

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    I'm new here but have participated in forums before. Blown away that this forum exists. Lots of good info here. I believe I have a 1975 Defiant. Problem is there is no lever for the thermostat. Want to fix this. Post below talks about similar issue.
    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/help-with-vc-defiant-1975-thermostat-cable-assembly.94915/
    This link below shows a pic of maybe what I need?
    http://www.blackswanhome.com/product/thermostat-older-vermont-castings
    The attached picture is me holding my iphone behind the stove taking a picture of the thermostat housing with a view of the smole hole in the back. I'm thinking all I need is the lever but not sure how to attach it or (given the picture in the second link above) how that lever will stick out of that hole.

    Will the housing need to come off to fix? If so what should I use to loosen the bottom screw on the outside of the assembly holding it on? I tried once and slipped and am scared to try again because I don't want to strip that screw/bolt. I'm not very handy but love burning wood. I've been propping the thermostat open with a metal rod to regulate the temperatuer which works very poorly :)

    Any help is much appreciated.

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  2. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    Welcome. VC wizards will be along to help.
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    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Howdy. Just to be clear, this is the older Defiant with solid cast iron doors, right?
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    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Could you take a photo that is a little further away so I can better understand the image?
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    I thought I knew what you were referring to when you said "older" Defiant, but now I'm not sure after seeing 1945 in your signature :). Within the firebox itself, on the back, it has a 1975 stamp. It does have the solid cast iron doors. Picture attached for reference.

    Also snapped a picture a little farther away from the thermostat housing. Thanks for your reply Browning.

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    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    VC has an odd numbering system when it comes to models. Mine is a model number, yours is more of the year it was designed. My Defiant and your Defiant are drastically different. Your stove more closely resembles the Vigilant I had. Unfortunately, the back air controls of the Vigilant looked different than what I see on yours.

    It looks like that back casting comes off that covers the air control. Does it?
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    I can only assume it does ( pretty sure). You can see from the second picture in my previous post there is a screw head sticking out a few inches under the hole in the thermostat housing. I tried once with about a 4 inch stubby :) flathead screwdriver and slipped. the metal seemed somewhat mushy...mabye i'm wrong. I was scared to try again. I'll figure this out I guess. Guess i'll spray something on the screw. Any tips for getting screws loose on a stove?
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    Yeah, let's get the cover off and see what's behind it. It should be the same part I linked to in the thread you originally mentioned since, I think, it works on the Defiant and the Vigilant.
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    Ok. Dirty job but here it is. Props to those that said PB Blaster. Finally came loose but it was tightening both ways almost. Then when doing lefty loosely I stopped applying enough pressure to give me a hernia and it finally came out. Must have been forcing it back in. I don't know. What say u now that u can see the device?[​IMG][​IMG]
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    Anyone else think this was rigged?
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    yes. the picture that you shown us from the parts store is right. the short end is threaded. the flat piece of metal that is shown is actually a round bimetallic spring. the chain hooks up to the flapper at the bottom back right below the adjustable rod.
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    i'm running the defiant 1. my primary air control looks just like that. my stove doesn't have a cover over where the spring is but has a rear heat shield. when you order yours make sure that it is for the defiant stove so that you have enough chain to go to the air flap. if you look close to the blown up picture you'll see the bimetallic spring. above the spring is short and threaded. that should thread into the hole that i see yours has a screw in it. thats it your done:)
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    That pic looks completely different than how the Vigilant air controls looked. I learned something new about the old VC stoves as I thought the Vig and Defiant had the same design.
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    Guess this is what happens when you try and find parts for antiques!!! Anyways. Found this great website. Now I can say for sure that I have a Defiant III (Don't know about model 0019 or 0028). I can tell from parts 14 and 21. This place seems expensive but oh well. I'm gonna order part 27. This thermostat does have a different part number than some of the other older defiant thermostat listed in some of the other diagrams. http://www.cozycabinstoveandfirepla...s%5FWood%5FBurning%5FParts : Wood_Stove_Parts
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    Pretty sure the 0028 is the Encore, since that is the model I have sitting in my kitchen.
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    So frustrated guys. Hope u can offer advice. Just received part 5005467 which I know is the right part or at least think but see the first picture. The threaded end is smaller than the rigged screw that was in the hole. Any ideas? Also took two months to get part from VC but they were actually cheapest. Also according to manual I have it looked like the lever stuck up in the back. Not straight out. Maybe wrong part?

    See the diagram as well. The lever sure does look like it sticks up in the back. What is the deal?!

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    what you have in your hand looks like the one used on my defiant 1
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    bump. I still need help on this.

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