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Muffler mod - 036

Post in 'The Gear' started by Joful, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. Joful

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    Educate me, Jay! I figure any dogs on a saw this small is probably not too sensible, since it doesn't really have the kind of power required to pivot on the dogs when cutting, but I'm looking for a quick way to shorten my bar, without dropping coin on all new chains and a bar. Maybe I've got my head up my arse, though. ;lol
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  2. MasterMech

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    You could always get the bar and cut your existing chains down to size.
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    20 still fine just need smaller rounds....DAWGS do nothing. Of. Shorting the bar its still the same length. You just lose workable space.
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    My figuring is that when I bury the nose, I'll have less chain in the log, but probably only 1" difference with small vs big dogs.

    I'll pick up an 18" B&C, to feel the difference, and decide which I like. I can always sell the other on eBay. I'll have to see what my shop charges for shortening a bunch of chains, and decide if its worth it!
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    18 is not worth it. Look at 16 and your going to have a strong saw. That's how I ran my 361 and once your out of bar move up to the bigger saw.
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  6. MasterMech

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    I currently have a 16" on my 034. I know it will run the 20 just fine but I really like that little bar on there!

    Joful, I imagine that burying the nose makes more difference than the 2" of straight bar. Straight 2 inches is what, 2 cutters? Probably at least 2x that in play going around the nose.
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    Hes used to saw chips flying to me the only way to make a 60cc saw kick @ss like an 064 would be a 16inch. Makes that saw a blast to run. I got rid of mine to roll with the 192t its just a lot light and the micro chain make it a no brainer for me. I just trying to get my 460 into the action as quick as possible. ;)
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    Good idea! I should step my T435 down to 12" (it came with 14"), the 036 to 16", and the 064 at 28"!
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    I like your thinking! ;) The right size wood drop your 064 to that 20inch and you will have a set-up for pure grunt!
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    I like my 12" on my 192t. It keeps you from trying to cut stuff that the 361 should be into.
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    I am kind of the other side. I like the 14 inch and skip the 361 all together, but a couple 036,360,361,362 on a crew never hurt anything. I just prefer either using the very lightest saw or having the extra horse power of the big saw. I do run a 20,28,32 on the 460 though.
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    No need to go 20" on that saw! That 064 maintains full chain speed on the 28" bar with the nose buried and me leaning on it pretty hard.
  13. MasterMech

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    Sounds like it needs more cowbell. Err, sprocket that is!
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    No way, guys... I ain't touching that 064! It's the only one I own that I'm truly happy with, right now.

    I'd be more likely to go the other way, and put a smaller sprocket on the 036. ;lol
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    Its just easier to swing a 20 in tighter spaces. Just depends on the job. 460 with a 20 inch bar and full comp its rooster tails and great bedding for the chix's... ;)
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  17. ScotO

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    Hey while we are on the subject of saws, I just picked up an 046 for 60 clams.......

    It needs a P/C and a rear handle/tank assy, but it'll make a good winter.project.....
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    Now you have room for 700 in parts......;)
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    and another tangent.

    A logger i know, i asked about old saws. He said he had some 372's i was asking about old saws. I think he will give them to me. I was thinking of getting them and rebuilding at least one. I think they may need P/C but did not ask the details of why they are now junk/parts saws.
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    Logger's just wear out a 70 cc saw very quick. 90cc where they need to be.
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  21. DexterDay

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    Ive got a $100 bill in my pocket right now if you wanted to get rid of one :) (seriously)
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    Not really around here. They mostly cut pine and a 30" butt is pretty large. 28"s inside bark is really the limits of most mills around here. They mostly trimm to length or trim trucks with the saws.
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    Guess I always have my head around our timber. Its big and hardwood and private own land. There's a lot of cuts to just one tree. Most logging truck are full with 3 trees.
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  24. I've got a $100 bill and a George Washington. :p
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    I will double down with 2 yards! :)

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