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My Angry Beaver : Front End loader Build

Post in 'DIY and General non-hearth advice' started by Freakingstang, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. OhioBurner©

    OhioBurner© Minister of Fire

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    Awesome work man. I've never heard of that tractor before and I suspected it was pretty small but I was thinking something along 9N size but that pic really puts it into perspective! Just a little bigger than a regular GT. Thats awesome. I've wanted a loader on one of my Cub Cadet GT's, but I don't have any experience in hydraulics or big enough welder or torch! Having 4wd is a huge advantage. That thing is fantastic.

    Your not too far from my inlaws... how much you want for one of them there loaders?:)

    And even my DSL was bogging down on this thread! But thats ok by me, It was worth it!

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  2. Freakingstang

    Freakingstang Feeling the Heat

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    I'm building one for my dads cub 3186 this winter. Lighter duty based on the tractor. I could build you one for about 1500 parts and labor. The pictures still make it look bigger than it is. It is just a garden tractor on steroids. Full on full size tractor down scaled. Left/right brakes, diff lock, split high/low trans, three point, 3 speed pto, Etc. The only downside I've found is the pto is a fine spline and spins backwards from conventional tractors/implements. They made them from 1976-83ish. Mitsubishi took over Satoh in 1980 and switched them to Clockwise pto for the states. Mitsubishi quit selling tractors under their own name in the late 80's, although they are still partners in many of the current sub compact tractor comoanies.

    This tractor and the Kubota B6000 are the only counterclockwise tractors that were imported To the US. These satohs were the furst sub conpact in the states and were here a year or so before kubota. Some grey market sub compacts have CCW pto's but they are grey markets, never intended for us distribution or sales. I have the original documentation with mine. It was bought new in 1978 in Garretsville Ohio at a dealer that no longer exsists.
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  3. MasterMech

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    So a quick question, is there some sort of mechanical adaptor to make your tractor compatible with our PTO implements?
  4. Freakingstang

    Freakingstang Feeling the Heat

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    Short answer...yes. long answer no. The woods mower i have is from a CCW kubota B6000. I bought the tractor for 500 bucks as it had a bad trans. motor ran awesome. kept the mower, front dozer blade, and wheel weights and sold the tractor for 600. that beat up orange one that the little Beave picked up in the one picture.

    I did not know this when i traded a parts car for it. I just assumed all tractors spun the same way... well the mower i got with mine was a regular CW pto, that someone flipped the blades on... i couldn't keep the blades on, or tight. tried double nuts, locktite, etc. searched the net and found out....

    Anywho, there were two companies that made a PTO reverser for them, both are out of business today. The kubota had a 22 spline shaft and the Satoh had a 16 spline, so the yokes and adapters won't even interchange. I have found a couple of them gearboxes, but they are going for north of 800-1200 bucks...The kubota pto reversers are more common, but still rare. No one parts with them. i have not bought one, but am attempting to make one out of combine chain and gears to be able to run my brush hog and my fathers post holedigger. only think holding me up is the solid mount idler shaft stubs... can't keep the chain tight enough and there isn't room for another idler or slack adjuster. I'll eventually get it, if not, well I've been wanting a kubota BXor similar sized machine...so I made trade both of my tractors in on a newer one down the road. maybe something withpower steering... non ps with a loader sucks... can't imagine having wider turf tires up front...
  5. MasterMech

    MasterMech Guest

    Vertical Mill and a rotary table would be all you need to hog out a gearbox housing from a block of aluminum. ;)

    The hard part would be making the stub shafts and gear hubs with the splines.
  6. Freakingstang

    Freakingstang Feeling the Heat

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    yeah, If i had a mill, i'd be deadly... i was trying to fabricate something out of all off the shelf parts... maybe I'll just sell a big saw and buy one someday...I have too many irons in the fire now.
  7. Eatonpcat

    Eatonpcat Minister of Fire

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    You seem to have more irons in the fire than my local dry cleaner!! Awesome posts by the way!
  8. OhioBurner©

    OhioBurner© Minister of Fire

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    Yeah thats one sweet lil tractor. My cubs are pretty basic in comparison but still running strong plowing the garden, pushing snow, off roading in the woods hauling out firewood, etc. Oh and grass, yeah they do that too. For about $300 they have served me pretty well so far! There have been a few 4x4 conversions out there but I'll never have enough fabricating skills for that (some pretty cool custom articulated ones too!). I would like to make some left/right brakes though, I've got a couple rear ends that have external caliper brakes so I think I can rig up some pedals to them individually. My one gear drive tractor I did put a hi/lo range creeper on it, my others are all hydro. Diff lock would surely help in the woods but I'm not aware of any way to add that to a cub.
  9. boatboy63

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    Man, you make me sick. You started talking about being out of town all the time and got this much accomplished. I have a 4 day work week and still don't get this much done at home. You are making me look bad.;) Seriously, great job on what you have done. We have a small farm and I have a redneck shop. This means you make do with what you have. I have wanted to build a loader for 1 of our diesel tractors, but just can't find the time. I started an outdoor gasification boiler build about 2 seasons ago, but still haven't finished.

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