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  1. shinyhaid New Member

    joined: Feb 1, 2008
    20 posts
    Bulldawg Country GA
    I got mine yesterday and it was $50 more than usual! And I have been using the heat pump very little. The dehumidifier in our basement is the likely culprit. I think those things are the same as running an air conditioner. The only other thing that is different is the outdoor Christmas tree but those don't draw much power do they?
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  2. billb3 Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 14, 2007
    3,060 posts
    SE Mass
    My electric bill is under $30.00.
    I'm in Ma.
    All electric except heat and hot water is oil.

    Everything else is electric.
    No AC.
    No dehumidifier.
    9xx sq ft.
    Well pump.


    I've had a old refrigerator start running too much which was costing me $50.00 a month bit it was old.

    When I replaced the fridge and lights with CFL and went to just one TV and dryig clothes on the clothes line they replaced my meter. :)


    To get the bill any lower than that would require rechargable lights charged back up at work.
    Or candles.
  3. Bubbavh Feeling the Heat

    joined: Oct 22, 2008
    475 posts
    NJ Piney
    Check that your reading is correct. Sometimes the reader may misread your meter. I had this happen... I got a $400 bill when my usual is about $120. You should have a reading number on the bill check it with the reading on you meter.
  4. Henz New Member

    joined: Mar 23, 2006
    1,735 posts
    Northville, NY
    sOMETIMES USING LESS ELECTRIC WILL COST YOU MORE :)
  5. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,113 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Moved to green room, not hearth related.
  6. jdemaris New Member

    joined: Oct 11, 2008
    452 posts
    Central New York State
    Is this a full-sized wood furnace with duct work? I ask, because if so, a 2 amp blower doesn't sound possible.

    My wood furnace has a three speed blower - low = 1/5 horse and 3.8 amps, medium = 1/4 horse and 4.6 amps, and high = 1/3 horse and 5.9 amps. That's amps at 120 VAC. And, those are running amps, not starting amps whic is a much higher figure.
    If you're drawing 2 amps, seems you must have a tiny little motor - maybe 1/10 th of a horsepower? That wouldn't push air through duct work.

    My furnace uses a lot power. Problem with a wood furnace is - once the fire is hot and you keep feeding it, it runs constant -not off and on like an oil or gas furnace.
  7. You must have PP&L;as your Electric Company. Read my reply post in the Wood Shed - topic "Speading up drying time, does a fan help?". I'm also struggling with bringing my electric bill down.
  8. Hansson Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jul 2, 2008
    372 posts
    Sweden,Leksand
    how much do you pay for one Kwh?
  9. Drumaz Member

    joined: Jul 23, 2008
    107 posts
    NW CT
    Mine went up considerably too...
  10. jebatty Minister of Fire

    joined: Jan 1, 2008
    3,571 posts
    Northern MN
    $0.103 general service
    $0.04 off peak (electric hot water, after 11:00 pm and before 7:00 am)
    $0.045 dual fuel (electric heat, interruptible; maximum 400 hrs/yr)
  11. Hansson Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jul 2, 2008
    372 posts
    Sweden,Leksand
    OK
    I pay $0.19/kWh here.
    The price dont change over the day.Its always $0.19/kWh.
  12. Valhalla Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 12, 2008
    880 posts
    Essex County, New York
    Hansson,

    Thank you. Is that in US or Euro dollar?

    Cheers
  13. Hansson Feeling the Heat

    joined: Jul 2, 2008
    372 posts
    Sweden,Leksand
    US
  14. BJ64 Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 24, 2008
    608 posts
    NE Oklahoma
    I have 3 meters scattered over the farm. One just runs a well, one runs a barn and small shop, and the third is my house. The utility company is Public Service Company of Oklahoma which is a unit of AEP.

    Well #2 average usage 14 KWH per month. Cost per KW = 0.571
    Barn and Shop average usage 109 KWH per month. Cost per KW = 0.211
    House, Well #1, and Main Shop average usage 1944 KWH per month. Cost per KW = 0.103
  15. jdemaris New Member

    joined: Oct 11, 2008
    452 posts
    Central New York State
    Do those figures show what you actually pay, or just what your bill shows for KWH charges? Around here in NY, the KHh charge is 7 cents, all the time for residential - but that means nothing. More than half the monthly is from all the add-ons and is actually 18 cents per KWh. Also here, farm-rate electricity is higher than residential.
  16. johnsopi Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 1, 2006
    638 posts
    MD near DE&PA;
    My wood furnace fan runs for hours at a time once the fire burning it heating. My bill is @ 250 a month.
  17. Redox New Member

    joined: Feb 23, 2008
    1,099 posts
    Burbs of B'more, MD, Hon!
    That sounds like you have a shaded pole fan motor. It might be worth changing it out to a high efficiency permanent split capacitor motor. I typically see 1/3 HP motors that only pull 4 amps or so. That could be $10-15 a month and the motor should be less than $100 if you can replace it yourself.

    Chris
  18. Redox New Member

    joined: Feb 23, 2008
    1,099 posts
    Burbs of B'more, MD, Hon!
    You might want to check with your utility. I believe that all the meters at an address can be added together to one "aggregate" price. It's worth a try.

    Chris
  19. Redox New Member

    joined: Feb 23, 2008
    1,099 posts
    Burbs of B'more, MD, Hon!
    I finally bought a "Kill a Watt" off E-bay for about $36. It's amazing what it shows up. Things that I thought would be high weren't and little things add up. Everyone here gives it good reviews.

    Chris
  20. rphurley Feeling the Heat

    joined: Nov 5, 2008
    435 posts
    Central/Eastern CT
    I have my large screen HD tvs plugged into a power strip and I turn that power strip off when I leave for work in the morning. I hear that a large screen tv can use as much electricity as a refrigerator when it is off. I also like the engery saving lightbulbs wherever they are feasable. The garage, outside lighting, etc.
  21. jdemaris New Member

    joined: Oct 11, 2008
    452 posts
    Central New York State
    Nope. My motor draws about as low as I can get. My motor is capacitor start. I looked around years ago and there isn't anything out there that offers any substantial gain in efficiency. Mine is always on the low setting - i.e. - it always runs at 1/5 th horsepwer and draws 3.8 amps. If was running a shaded-pole motor at the same 1/5 horsepower, it would be drawing 6.7 amps, which would be a silly thing to do.

    My motor is this:
    Capacitor: 5M370V HP: 1/3 - 1/4 - 1/5 RPM: 1075 Volts: 115
    Enclosure: Open Ventilated Air Over Type: Permanent Split Capacitor Bearings: Sleeve
    Mounting: Bolt Circle - 5.2" Rotation: REVERSIBLE 50Hz/60Hz: No/Yes Speeds: Three
    'A' Dimension: 4.25 Base: Stud, Band, Base or Lug (motor specific) Amps: 5.9 - 4.6 - 3.8
    Shaft: 1/2 X 6 Item: AC Mtr 1/3 - 1/4 - 1/5 HP 1075 RPM 115 V Permanent Split
    Capacitor OP-AO Catalog Number: D727

    Shaded pole motor as thus:
    Part ID: D158 Product Weight: 12 lbs. HP: 1/5 - 1/6 - 1/7 RPM: 1050 Volts: 115
    Enclosure: Open Ventilated Air Over Type: Shaded Pole Bearings: Sleeve Mounting: Bolt
    Circle - 4.62" Rotation: CW 50Hz/60Hz: No/Yes Speeds: Three 'A' Dimension: 3.875
    Base: Stud, Band, Base or Lug (motor specific) Amps: 6.7 - 5.3 - 4.7 Shaft: 1/2 X 3-7/8
    Item: AC Mtr 1/5 - 1/6 - 1/7 HP 1050 RPM 115 V Shaded Pole OP-AO Catalog Number:
    D158
  22. BucksCoBernie New Member

    joined: Oct 8, 2008
    450 posts
    I pay .16 cents per kwh for peak usage
    .08/kwh for off-peak.

    I have 2 meters on the side of my house, one peak the other off peak, but it looks like the only thing hooked up to the off peak meter is my water heater. i wonder if i can hook up my well pump to the off peak meter as well lol.

    My electric bill is about $110/mo (just me and my wife).

    we have CFLs and our tvs and cable boxes are hooked up to a strip that gets turned off at night....doing these things dropped our bill about $20/mo.

    I picked up one of those Kill-A-Watt meters last month for $20 off ebay. awesome tool.
  23. Techstuf New Member

    joined: Dec 10, 2008
    119 posts
    US
    If one runs the numbers, the utility companies nationwide are profiteering like Somali Sea Pirates on Steroids.....


    The writing is on the wall.


    TS
  24. wrench340 New Member

    joined: Apr 3, 2008
    25 posts
    Durhamville,NY
    not sure what we're being charged per actual kwh ,but the total charge with distribution charges is 6.96 per kwh. That's why we call them NATIONAL GREED
  25. Redox New Member

    joined: Feb 23, 2008
    1,099 posts
    Burbs of B'more, MD, Hon!
    I thinks we have some decimal points on the loose in this thread. Bernie is paying 16 cents or $.16/kwh. I am paying about 15 cents/kwh delivered and I think the national average is around 11-12 cents delivered. Wish I had National Grid as an option. Those are 1990's prices for some of us. Deregulation and all that, ya know....

    Chris
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