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My stable of broken down saws

Post in 'The Gear' started by burnt03, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. Boog

    Boog Minister of Fire

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    :( Oh no, back to Bars and Chains 101 for me, I must have been daydreaming with Aqualung in my head thinking about girls & frilly panties running when we covered this in class :(

    Ok, I reviewed all the issues involved here again about going to 3/8 picco. I remember StihlHead covering some of this here:

    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/ms180c-jump-on-it-or-pass.92788/page-2

    It's those large format "024/026" rare bars that we're talking about huh!

    Here are two other threads on the subject:

    http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=15956.0

    http://www.treeworld.info/f40/3-8-standard-vs-3-8-a-11269.html

    Man, after reviewing all this, I think it might be easiest just to put a shorter 16" bar on that 024 and run the .325 full chisle! After all, I'm not going to tackle anything big with this saw. I've got other toys for that!

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  2. burnt03

    burnt03 Burning Hunk

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    I'm on a few other forums around here, most notably a hunting one and a 4x4 one. Put a post up asking if anyone had cheap/free saws they wanted to get rid of and got a bunch of PM's from people around the province
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  3. MasterMech

    MasterMech Guest

    Somewhere awhile back I posted the part #'s for what was needed to convert a 024/026/MS260 to a large format Picco setup. I would have to do some digging to see if I can find those posts. I would do the conversion if you can scrounge the parts. I did up a MS260 Pro once with a 3/8" picco setup. Like a hot knife through butter.

    EDIT:

    Eureka!

    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/stihl-024av-will-run-but-not-idle.83700/#post-1073558

    Also relevant:

    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/chain-saw-question.72535/#post-917093

    Apparently Baileys has the bar, not cheap tho.

    http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=QS 3003 000 6313&CAT=
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  4. Boog

    Boog Minister of Fire

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    Perfect, thanks for looking that back up for me. I took the first step last night and switched the .325 spur sprocket over to .325 7-tooth RIM. I forgot I had the proper RIM sprocket hub off the 026 I converted to the adjustable oiler. (I forgot that it was a RIM, thought it was a spur...........I'm already accumulating lots of odd parts in baggies, need to start keeping better track of those too.) Fit the 024AV perfect. So all I need is the 3/8P 7 tooth RIM............. found two places for that, Bailey's for a buck more at $12. $47 for the bar from Bailey's isn't too bad, especially since it appears to be about the only source in the US to find one with the right nose sprocket! I looked around for a while yesterday and came up with nothing, not even this one at Bailey's. I see why now, I was searching for 3/8x.05 picco............. Bailey's lists this as .375x.05 picco! Arggggg!

    Now all I need is chain. Found the standard 63PM3 55, and 63PM 55. I see there is a new PS3 chain out too, square tooth stuff, reviews seem to like it. Thanks again MasterMech.

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    Its a little dusty, thats cause I've been work'in it! Might notice that I have those .325 rakers ground way back too! The 41.6 cc seems to handle 18" of it fine, and it only has a 1 screw carb in it. I swapped the 2 screw carb out of it to put into one of my 026. I was worried that the 1 screw carb from the 026 might not be "set" right for the 7 cc smaller 024, but it seems to be running ok, if anything I figured it might be a "little rich".
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  5. MasterMech

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    Don't forget the newer Picco DURO chain will run on that setup. Doubtful you will find any in the right size loop however. Will have to be spun off the reel.
  6. burnt03

    burnt03 Burning Hunk

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    One of my neighbors sold his place and is having a garage sale on the weekend, went over to have a look and he had a Stihl 028AV Super for sale (he bought it new years ago), got it for $50. Took it home and realized that I have a lot of saws sitting around in various states of repair, thought I'd update this thread since I haven't posted on Hearth for a while.

    [​IMG]

    From top left:

    McCullough Pro Mac 10-10 (not running)
    Jonsered 630 (main firewood saw)
    Husqvarna 65 / 0650? (not running)
    Pioneer 3270SC (not running)
    Stihl 028AV Super (new pickup, fired right up after sitting empty for 2-3 years!)
    Homelite XL-2 (running)
    Poulan Micro Super XXV (running)
    Stihl 009L (running)
    Stihl MS170 (running)
    Echo CS340 (running)

    Couple of good things.... first off, most of them were free! Paid $50 for the 028AV and $100 for the MS170.

    Best of all, have enough saws laying around now that my wife doesn't notice if another one comes home lol :)

    Thinking I should probably thin things a bit. Plan on keeping the Jonsered, 028AV, and the MS170 for sure. What do you guys think? Can sell some off on the local classifieds website and give some to friends.
  7. mike van

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    Wish I had neighbors like you - Nice buy on the 028.
  8. burnt03

    burnt03 Burning Hunk

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    I'm starting to think I might have a problem.... Another 028AV from a diff neighbour, wood boss this time . What's the diff btwn the woodboss and the super?
  9. Clarkbug

    Clarkbug Minister of Fire

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    Early Wood boss was a 42 mm piston, no chain brake, and all magnesium fuel tank. Later models had a 44 mm piston. Supers have a 46 mm piston, so a little more displacement. And the real late supers had a side chain adjuster instead of the front.

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