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Need ANY input on my cheap 2nd hand stove....

Post in 'Classic Wood Stove Forums Pre-EPA (prior to 1988)' started by Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 7, 2012.

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  1. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    "they're coming to take me away HA HA" :)
    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 8, 2012
    #26

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  2. Wildo Member

    joined: Dec 14, 2011
    172 posts
    jackmanistan, maine 04945
    Good score, if it heats & burns as well as my 007 you are going to be a happy camper indeed.
    Wildo, Dec 8, 2012
    #27

  3. A1Stoves.com Feeling the Heat

    joined: Dec 19, 2011
    392 posts
    Northern CA
    i for one wouldn't go off the label
    3" from the pipe to the wall is crazy. nfpa requires single wall to be 18", 9" with approved wall or pipe shielding
    recommend you use double wall, it is 6"
    A1Stoves.com, Dec 8, 2012
    #28
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  4. Pallet Pete Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 27, 2011
    3,172 posts
    Ovid MI
    Watch out for Ray he is liable to show up with the jacket for you to test fit ! He has a whole basement full of em lol.

    Pete
    Pallet Pete, Dec 8, 2012
    #29

  5. homebrewz Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 29, 2005
    805 posts
    East Central, NY
    After you paint that thing, make sure you fire it up outside to cure the paint.

    Good luck.
    homebrewz, Dec 8, 2012
    #30

  6. raybonz Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 5, 2008
    5,962 posts
    Carver, MA.
    Yes true I keep next to my hockey masks! Shush don't give away my secrets Pete!

    Ray
    raybonz, Dec 8, 2012
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  7. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    I plan on having the flue itself at least 9" from the wall and that is with good double wall pipe.

    Here is my CAT situation..... Definitely NO cat installed right now.... does it look intact enough that all I need to do is buy one?

    Thank you SO much for holding my hand through all this... you guys are amazing!

    Don

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    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 8, 2012
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  8. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,915 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Not real sure but it looks like the cat assembly was removed and that piece was fab'ed to act as a baffle in its place. The little door that opens is the bypass for starting up the stove and then when it is up to temp it is closed so that the gasses pass through the cat assembly that appears to have gone away at some point.

    I was having to guess on whether it had a bypass or if the handle flipped the cat. They were done both ways back then.

    What you have now is your basic "smoke dragon". You aren't gonna be able to find a cat chamber assembly for that stove anymore. And with the flame being able to go past that "baffle" and straight up the pipe you are gonna have some massive flue temps with that thing.

    All I can say from the pics.
    BrotherBart, Dec 8, 2012
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  9. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    Thanks Bart..... rough news, but thanks for the honestly!!!

    Looks like it might be going back! :(

    Thanks again!!

    Don
    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 8, 2012
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  10. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,915 posts
    Northern Virginia
    I scraped my big Sierra insert that could burn better than that stove ever will without a cat. Hate that. I love Sierra stoves. Great for their time. But if the cat stoves had worked out they wouldn't have ended up having to make mail carts.
    BrotherBart, Dec 8, 2012
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  11. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

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    BrotherBart, Dec 8, 2012
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  12. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    Hey Bart... so the FIXED opening on the left doesn't hold the CAT, and the opening on the right is the bypass ?

    Just double checking before I get my $$ back.

    Thank you
    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 8, 2012
    #37

  13. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,915 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Yep. There was some kind of assembly on the left that held the cat. And the door on the right was used to bypass the cat until the stove was up to a temp where the cat could light off.
    BrotherBart, Dec 8, 2012
    #38

  14. raybonz Minister of Fire

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    Carver, MA.
    raybonz, Dec 8, 2012
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  15. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 8, 2012
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  16. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,915 posts
    Northern Virginia
    BrotherBart, Dec 8, 2012
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  17. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    DAGNABBIT BART.... why do you have to be so smart?! :)

    Oh well ......... I wanted a soapstone stove anyway... guess I just need to save my pennies for a few more years.

    Thanks again!!!!

    "I'LL BE BACK" !!

    Don
    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 8, 2012
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  18. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    last question... recommendations for a TIGHT back-wall clearance stove that won't break the bank?
    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 8, 2012
    #43

  19. Pallet Pete Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 27, 2011
    3,172 posts
    Ovid MI
    How many square feet where you trying to heat Don ?

    Pete
    Pallet Pete, Dec 8, 2012
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  20. Pallet Pete Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 27, 2011
    3,172 posts
    Ovid MI
    I believe the englander 30nch can go 5" with heat shields.
    Brother Bart would be the authority on that though.

    Pete
    Pallet Pete, Dec 8, 2012
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  21. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    My house is only 1500sq MAX :)
    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 8, 2012
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  22. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,915 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Stoves like an Englander 13-NC or a Drolet or Century should do the job for short money. Maybe six hour burn times.
    BrotherBart, Dec 8, 2012
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  23. raybonz Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 5, 2008
    5,962 posts
    Carver, MA.
    I don't know your location but in here in Southeast Mass. I heat ~1600 sq. feet with a 2 cu. ft. firebox stove and easily get 8+ hr. burns. More than likely this will work for you as well..

    Ray
    raybonz, Dec 9, 2012
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  24. Big Donnie Brasco Member

    joined: May 29, 2012
    181 posts
    East Central Kansas
    Ray - when you say "firebox" are you talking about the stove that I have been posting pictues of?

    I just don't want to go to the trouble of installing it if it's a waste of me time with all the heat shooting out the flue! :(

    Thanks you
    Big Donnie Brasco, Dec 9, 2012
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  25. raybonz Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 5, 2008
    5,962 posts
    Carver, MA.
    The firebox is where you load and burn the wood Don.. The Sierra 7000c is tough because the information is scarce and if you need parts it may be difficult if not impossible to find them. Worse case Englander is a good value and you could get into the NC30 a 3 cu. ft. stove for around $1000.00 or quite a bit cheaper in the off season. Lots of great stoves out there in every price range..

    Ray
    raybonz, Dec 9, 2012
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