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New England Pellets = LEGIT

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by geppapa, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. PoopieBritches

    PoopieBritches New Member

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    This sure is a hot topic! If I might say(pun intended). But seriously,I'm a total noob with the pellet stove.
    First year. I had bought a few bags of stove chow based on a co workers recommendation,seemed to burn well enough.Went back,bought a ton.All was well,I was happy with them.That was about 6 weeks ago.This past w/e,went back and got another ton.This batch is nowhere near as good,a lot of long pellets,less heat.
    I am definately getting the impression of just how much variation there is with wood pellets,at least with some brands.
    I am still getting enough heat out of the chow to keep the 25pdvc on 1-1,and everyone in the house is comfortable.
    Lucky me,I guess.Because I cringe at the thought of paying $260 or more per ton.
    Also,I have seen at least 3 diff brands under the NEWP banner,can't remember the third,but the local grocery store had them @250 a ton,no thanks!

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  2. P38X2

    P38X2 Minister of Fire

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    Are you serious? There's no tar or feathers in here. Just adults playfully teasing other adults. NEWP's track record has been WELL documented here for a long time. When someone comes in and says something completely opposite said track record, it's sure to get a rise out of people. I'm happy, and surprised, the OP is enjoying their pellets and, IMO, nobody here is going over the line. A lot of the comments have been amusing and none are direct insults to the OP.

    Would it be OK if the OP was referring to Inferno's?

    Hopefully, your post was tongue and cheek, but if not, you gotta lighten up. This forum is flat out the most BS free forum of any topic I've found in my years 'putin.
  3. WoodPorn

    WoodPorn Minister of Fire

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    Ahhh B bye now!
  4. WoodPorn

    WoodPorn Minister of Fire

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    Let 'em go...Pretty sure his location and state of mind are alike.
  5. SXIPro

    SXIPro Feeling the Heat

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    At $8+ a bag, it'd be cheaper to burn your furniture.
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  6. TLHinCanada

    TLHinCanada Feeling the Heat

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    You guys should feel grateful you have a choice. I live in a fairly large city and I have 4 brands to choose from. Prices range from $5.00 to $7.00, one store has a sale once a year in January. HD and Walmart don't carry them.
  7. SXIPro

    SXIPro Feeling the Heat

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    Did you do a thorough cleaning (the whole enchilada) after the first ton? A clean stove burning crappy pellets burns hotter than a dirty stove burning premium stuff, in my experience. My cheapo Fireside Ultras are toasting me out of my room this season as long as I am diligent w/the cleanings.
  8. Lousyweather

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    pft- we all have different results. Gotta understand that alot of the folks here are so incredibly anile about their pellets that the difference between a GREAT one and a SUCKY one could be 1 or two percent......that difference mitigated given the cleanliness of their stove and such....
  9. WoodPorn

    WoodPorn Minister of Fire

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    Grateful....indeed
  10. PoopieBritches

    PoopieBritches New Member

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    I have been shutting the stove down weekly,cleaning everything I can.Garden hose(connected to shopvac) in the heat exchanger and all.I'm quite confident that the stove is clean,and burning well.Just seems this batch of stove chow is not as good.The upper auger groans in protest of the long pellets.
    I also picked a few bags of green supremes while getting the chow,just to try for myself.
    They burn well enough,the ash is notably "fluffier" than the chow,heat not quite as high.I do have ir temp gun I check with.
    To each their own,but as of now,I refuse to pay more when I'm getting what I need for $209/ton.
  11. SXIPro

    SXIPro Feeling the Heat

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    Agree completely. I can heat my home fine for $188 a ton (HD honors Lowes 10% off coupon) so why should I spend $260 or more for other stuff? The Ultras are pretty darn low ash this year too.
  12. midfielder

    midfielder Feeling the Heat

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    Oh man, really? Sorry about that. In Canada that just seems counter intuitive. I kind of figured there were pellets available all over the place in CA since so many seem to be produced there. Is it that they sell so much bulk to Europe? And I whine about having to drive 45 minutes to get good pellets...
  13. MikeNH

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    I've been burning NEWP this season and they've been fine...BUT...as I've said in other threads, I have nothing to compare them to yet, and I've only had the stove since the end of December. I have 3 bags of Fireside Ultras I'm going to try this weekend so I can see if there's any difference in ash, heat output etc. We keep our first floor around 72ish and bedrooms at 67ish. I think both those temps are too warm, but there's a benefit to not fighting that battle. One thing I do notice - which I'm not sure is a "feature" of NEWP or the stove - is the Harman speed bump I get in the middle of the burnpot. It's easily scraped off, but it does show up after several days.

    I think I'm still stuck in wood stove mode anyway. I read about people cleaning after 1 ton of pellets I've been cleaning the stove every Sunday afternoon because, well...that's what I did with the wood stove. I reckon I should let it go longer and see what happens.
  14. CT Pellet

    CT Pellet Minister of Fire

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    That's a pretty good funny right there!
  15. PoolGuyinCT

    PoolGuyinCT Feeling the Heat

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    There are two identical freedom fuels, one is 5/16" the other is 1/4"..

    The 5/16" was just ok the, 1/4" diameter was fujkin garbage. Both were "corny"

    You don't know which size freedom fuel you are getting until the bag is cut, even from the same skid.

    Never again
  16. CT Pellet

    CT Pellet Minister of Fire

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    Here's a good one. I remember seeing Freedom fuel at HD about 4 or 5 years ago and why this sticks out in my mind is because I remember seeing them in a broken bag and the diameter was so small. They looked like little broken pieces of spaghetti. Then last year, Freedom Fuel dropped off a bag of pellets here at my office in an effort to try and get me to carry them. When I opened up the bag, I couldn't believe it. Total other end of the spectrum...These things were like corks! Now in all fairness, I did burn them and they were OK. (from what I can tell from onee bag) But there is no way as a dealer that I would be able to sell them because they were "different." When you sell something that is different, people equate this with there being a problem. I told the salesman that the diameter of his pellet goes outside the requirements to meet the PFI's definition of "premium." He then tells me that the PFI "grandfathered" them in because they were making fat pellets prior to the new standards. Oh, what the PFI will do for a "dues-paying" member. All that aside, I can't say that thew are bad pellets.
  17. Harman Lover 007

    Harman Lover 007 Minister of Fire

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    The "speedbump" is creosote that collects in the burnpot right on top of the igniter. It will happen with any pellet. A flat blade screwdriver will handle it nicely.
  18. PoolGuyinCT

    PoolGuyinCT Feeling the Heat

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    People go to chain restaurants for the consistent experience, not for the the passable slop.
  19. mfglickman

    mfglickman Minister of Fire

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    I am with you on this, and the dogs too. ;)
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  20. Cowdogz

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    I tried a few bags last year. I liked them better than some of the stuff that everybody raves about and costs $300/ton. They performed about the same as Trebios, which I had really good luck with.
  21. MikeNH

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    I mentioned earlier in the thread I was going to try Fireside Ultras and compare to NEWP. My friend and I ran that pellet-switch test over the last several days (varying temps during the day, got down to 10 above last night). I burned 4 days of Fireside Ultras and he burned 4 days of NEWP. I noticed no difference between the two pellets. He commented to me today that he and his wife both felt that the NEWP burned better and hotter than the Fireside Ultras in his Heatilator PS50. I'm going to try out a few other brands to compare. The NEWP are working for me, but they are $240/ton. If I can get the same results at $210/ton with something else, cool.
  22. fmsm

    fmsm Minister of Fire

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    In my Harman I do NOT get the speed bump when I burn a good pellet, with NEWP I have an immediate bump and the stove is "sticky" inside. My opinion of NEWP is simple- they stink! I sold my ton last year for $3.00 a bag, that's what I think of them.
  23. DOLLARBILL

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    Ok so for the last five years we had burnt corn @ the Home in my shop pellets and we have tried lots of differant brands in a Harman P68 but seeing how moved the Bixby to the shop office and went with a Harman XXV here @ Home Ive noticed a few things cheap pellets work ok but the better stuff burns hotter and my cleaning time is cut way down which I like !I also think the XXV likes the better fuel but thats just me ! What ever works for you is the way to go !
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  24. jdege

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    Early on with this forum I read that stoves houses and opinions vary. Find what works for you, enjoy the burning and the savings.

    Enjoy
  25. MikeNH

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    One thing I noticed in my cleaning of the burn pot this past week that I thought I would share here - I switched to Room Temp manual early last week (previously on auto) and the carbon speed bump was very minor compared to room temp auto. This was with several days of NEWP and several days of MWP. Could just be the cooling/heating cycle of auto contributed to the carbon build up, much like a smoldering fire makes for a cool chimney top and creosote build up. Just my guess.

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