http://www.harmanstoves.com/en/Products/Accentra-52i-Pellet-Insert.aspx
It's here! I know there has been a fair amount of talk about the new Harman insert.
It's here! I know there has been a fair amount of talk about the new Harman insert.
New Harman Insert
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Paul Raz
Feeling the Heat
It's nice! 52,000 BTU, 64lb hopper, miirored glass...damn! I knew I should have waited another year.
They claim a "reengineered design provides even easier operation and maintenance - for up to 50% less cleaning time than any other pellet appliance available."
I wonder how it has been "reengineered" for this? The P series are really easy to clean.
I wonder how it has been "reengineered" for this? The P series are really easy to clean.
Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
Thats got to be the best lookin pellet stove iv ever seen, by a long shot. Then again im bias because im a proud owner of a TL-300 and a fan of harman products. They also make the best looking wood stove insert as well the 300i.
I recently purchased the Accentra insert and have been informed I will be getting the 52i instead of the older version. It's being tested now so I should have it by this weekend. Kind of surprised since when I inquired about the new version I was told they didn't expect it until next season.
I think they are comparing to the original Accentra Insert, which did not provide access to the combustion blower from the front. New one does, like P-series...50% less cleaning? I guess we'll just have to get out the chronometers for that one.
I watched the maintenance video. The corrugated heat exchanger is now flat. ?? more efficient ? less surface area. I only clean my exhaust fan once a year anyway. The front cross over instead of the dreaded blocked left rear cross over is a good idea. Mirror glass nice but my glass stays remarkably clean between my weekly cleanings. It takes me less then 15 minutes after it cools to clean my old accentra insert.
Looking at the installation manual it appears they are requiring a block off plate regardless of whether you install an OAK or not whereas with the older version they recommended it however did not require it. Does this seem odd to anyone? Is there any specific reason they would now require the block off plate?
nope, in the latest version of the "old" Accentra Insert manual, it also required a blockoff
They must not have changed the downloadable manual as it still says "it may be sealed" rather than "it must be sealed"
Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
Man i still cant get over that new insert. Thats a real beauty. Im thinking of places i could put one. I guess you could do a direct vent and put one just about anywhere.
we are talking about the new 52i, right?
heres the link to the manual for it: http://www.harmanstoves.com/Products/Accentra-52i-Pellet-Insert.aspx
I cant see an installation where its not "must"......maybe the "old" Accentra Insert?
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
Looks exactly like the Accentra, but now available in enamel with the xxv glass. Surprised to see the MSRP under 4k, a bit misleading when they show you the enamel with the painted price.
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
Wow! 50% less cleaning. It must be the mirrored glass...outa sight outa mind
Must be! I'd like to see how it was redesigned to accomplish any time savings compared to the p series.
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
Nothing here that's looks like 50% less work than the Accentra v 1.0, except that I see they added a line....I wonder what their definition of "regular basis" is?
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
So, back with accentra version 1.0 he stove sat on a gasket that did two things...1 it allowed the unit to slide back and forth somewhat easier and 2. it separated the convection air from the stove components. Looks like all of the room air will now be pulled up and across all of the components now, hopefully they don't get too dirty! Think dog and cat hair.
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
Brochure says it will heat 2600 sqft, manual says 2300 sqft....the warranty says they aren't responsible for any sqft claims whatsoever.... They should have gone for 4000 sqft
hockeypuck
Feeling the Heat
Scott,
I am not trying to be cynical here and I am always a fan of supporting the underdog (always build AMD computers for my family and friends) but I get the sense that you think there are better options out there than Harman. Do you think that they are at the end of the business cycle where they try to bleed every ounce of profit from the product without doing any real investment back into it?
I am not trying to be cynical here and I am always a fan of supporting the underdog (always build AMD computers for my family and friends) but I get the sense that you think there are better options out there than Harman. Do you think that they are at the end of the business cycle where they try to bleed every ounce of profit from the product without doing any real investment back into it?
hockeypuck
Feeling the Heat
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
No it's good....I'm not sure. What I haven't been able to do is actually play with the new stove. Looks like the ditched the accordion style heat exchanger but made some other improvements mostly around access. You gotta remember that this isn't Harman anymore but a HUGE marketing company called HHT running the show. They don't bring models to shows anymore, they bring salesmen. It's not the same company anymore. More choices are made from a profit standpoint and ALL decisions are toward a profit. Gone are the days of creating for the passion of it...that's kinda why Dane lost the business right?
smwilliamson
The Stove Guy
Now that I read your post again, I think i kinda agree with you...yeah that's it right on the money.
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