New Lopi Cape Cod hybrid stove

[madrone]

I'd consider it, depending on firebox size. I could take or leave the ignition though. Great for freaking out friends and family I suppose. "I will now light my stove using only the power of my mind...."

 

[BKVP]

It's sort of clever, some manufacturers saying "hybrid" instead of mentioning it's a catalytic wood stove with secondary air tubes. Blaze King made one in 1983 and it sold really quite well.

The great folks at Woodstock have a hybrid stove. The Woodstock hybrid does not use tubes however, much more original and they are proud to call it catalytic.

There are claims by all manufacturers and one is now claiming to have the "most efficient wood stove in the world".

It's all in the details. Based on the B415.1 measured efficiency, the new xxxxxx Hybrid is being advertised at 80.1%. This of course is the Higher Heating Value efficiency of the B415.1. Truth is, at least two stoves, not yet posted to the EPA web site are more efficient. One is the new hybrid from Woodstock Soapstone at 81%, but just 1% higher is the Blaze King, King 1107 model at 82%.

Once the EPA updates the web site, the air will be cleared! (pun intended!)

 

[begreen]

So when are ya gonna give us a sneak preview Chris?

 

[Jags]

So when are ya gonna give us a sneak preview Chris?

Yeah, yeah, yeah - sneak preview???

 

[Ashful]

So when are ya gonna give us a sneak preview Chris?

There are a few of us sort of waiting and watching, before breaking down and buying other cat stoves. Would at least be nice to have a handle on sizing and clearances, at this point.

 

[kingquad]

There are a few of us sort of waiting and watching, before breaking down and buying other cat stoves. Would at least be nice to have a handle on sizing and clearances, at this point.

Probably similar to the Chinook 30. Maybe a lower height though.

 

[FyreBug]

the Cape Cod was tested at .47 grams an hour,

I just saw it this past weekend burning at an open house. It was not a fair demo since it was in the 90's outside.

I wonder if the .47 grams per hour is with the electric igniter. Most of the smoke produced in EPA testing in the low burn mode. That's why fire start up procedures are crucial for EPA testing. You're allowed 5 minutes with the door open.

We've seen some other mfg's have found a loophole around this rule by providing a mechanical air trap by allowing fresh air past the 5 minute mark then closes automatically after about 15 minutes. I wonder if this electric igniter provides the same loop hole.

 

[Flatbedford]

I think I could get the same results in the same time with one match 6 rolled up pieces of newspaper, and some dry kindling and wood in my Fireview. On a nice cold day, I'd be closed down in a slow cat burn in another 10 minutes. Don't need no fancy igniter, just some well seasoned wood.

 

[Todd]

I wonder if the .45 GPH is the average rate tested, the low burn rate, med or high burn rate? I'm pretty sure most cat stoves burn similar in the low burn range and the non cats do better in the high burn range. Anyways who could really tell the difference between 0 GPH or 10 GPH looking at their chimney? Just knowing its an EPA stove says its clean and efficient enough. I'd rather look at firebox size and burn times when shopping for a new stove.

 

[Ashful]

I wonder if the .45 GPH is the average rate tested, the low burn rate, med or high burn rate? I'm pretty sure most cat stoves burn similar in the low burn range and the non cats do better in the high burn range. Anyways who could really tell the difference between 0 GPH or 10 GPH looking at their chimney? Just knowing its an EPA stove says its clean and efficient enough. I'd rather look at firebox size and burn times when shopping for a new stove.

Not sure if this is in agreement or disagreement with what you stated, but the cat's can generally burn clean at much lower rates than the non-cats. That translates into longer burn times at lower temperatures, and can permit one to go to a larger stove for a given space, when buying a cat stove.

 

[Treacherous]

Cape Cod info now online:

http://www.lopistoves.com/product_guide/detail.aspx?id=364

- 0.45 grams of emission per hour
- 86,000 BTU's / Hour
- 3 Cubic Feet
- 600 lbs
- up to 12 hour burn time

 

[jharkin]

I see Englander has a new Pellet stove and a new Pellet Grill out this year. Maybe they can introduce a good, affordable hybrid into the market? (Yeah, I am an Englander fan )

A pellet grill?? now thats interseting, have to check it out. I love bbq'ing on charcoal but the convenience is not great. Pellet would be cool, wood cooked flavor, real wood and not coal like kingsford, convenience like gas without not cooking my food on fossil fuels.

 

[DexterDay]

A pellet grill?? now thats interseting, have to check it out. I love bbq'ing on charcoal but the convenience is not great. Pellet would be cool, wood cooked flavor, real wood and not coal like kingsford, convenience like gas without not cooking my food on fossil fuels.

They have been around for awhile now. Trager makes some, Brinkmann, Englander...

They sell different "flavored" pellets (smoke). The new Englander is one of the few to do indirect and direct heat cooking.

Indirect for smoking (low and slow) and direct for the grilling (high heat/sear). More info in the Pellet room, but not a whole lot on it yet.

Here got stove? (woodstove porn) is the thread with some pics. Looks to be a nice model.

(Sorry to get off topic). I love my Ignitors in a pellet stove. But I dont know how I feel about one in the side of a wood stove? Starting a sideways fire? So much for the Top Down method

 

[Treacherous]

Looks like they are using a different system than roll pins in Cape Cod to hold the air tubes in.

Only a 5 year warranty on this stove. No separate warranty for the catalyst.

It is also now listed next to the Liberty in the High Heating Capacity column on their site.

 

[raybonz]

Looks like they are using a different system than roll pins in Cape Cod to hold the air tubes in.

Only a 5 year warranty on this stove. No separate warranty for the catalyst.

It is also now listed next to the Liberty in the High Heating Capacity column on their site.

The Cape Cod is a nice looking stove! All cats have a 6 yr. prorated warranty and it's only because the government requires it not because the cat people are being nice..

Ray