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Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by bobswworld, Apr 29, 2008.

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  1. bobswworld

    bobswworld New Member

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    Hello everyone,

    looking around and some very informative info here.

    I have one question so far, Do I really have to use the expensive twist lock pipes? I know they are recommended probably for a reason but wow!! they are expensive!! Just asking.
    I intend on using a brick chimney that also has a fuel oil furnace using it. But of course one at a time. Any help please.
    I will continue to look around on the forum might find the same question answered.

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  2. stoveguy2esw

    stoveguy2esw Minister of Fire

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    the pipe in the room and exposed outside the dwelling must be type L or PL pellet vent inside of a flue, stainless steel liners rated for pellet stoves or solid fuels can be used, by the way it is not allowable to vent the pellet stove into the same flue that serves the oil furnace, you will probably want to rethink that part of the install.
  3. bobswworld

    bobswworld New Member

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    Thanks Mike,

    is it not allowable because of codes or because of draft problems or both?

    how do they have more than one fireplace on the same chimney?

    I think it will work OK as long as the oil furnace is shut off?? won't it? must be a code or warranty thing

    as I said am new to this, just hate to have a pipe outside of house.
  4. jtp10181

    jtp10181 Minister of Fire

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    The only legit way to do that would be to get a power vent kit for the oil furnace so the chimney is dedicated to the pellet stove. Yes it is codes, and safety. The codes are trying to keep people from offing themselves and their family.
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    kinsmanstoves Minister of Fire

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    JTP is right. It is a bad thing if you or the family dies to save a few bucks. There are other ways to vent a pellet stove than through an existing chimney. Check out DuraVent.com

    Eric
  6. bobswworld

    bobswworld New Member

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    Thanks everyone

    I understand, so far I have some of the same problems others here have
    I read one post where it listed codes for near windows and the such for a basement install
    it said you have to be no less than 4ft below 4ft horizontal from a window, now I can get 4ft horizontal away from window but not 4ft below it, is this only to vent and not the pipe itself?
    what I have is I can get the pipe out of the basement wall at about 2ft above grade, from the directions I believe I can only vent at a 3ft minimum above grade, venting height is not a problem just where the pipe exits the wall, is this OK?
    Will have atleast a 3ft rise from the stove to where it goes thru the wall.
    Does this sound OK? and how high should I go above the 3ft minimum above grade outside?
    Note this will put the vent at about the same height as the bottom of window but a good 4ft horizontally away...is this OK?
    Help please, no big hurry as it is warm now but would like to get started
  7. pegdot

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    It's okay for the pipe to be less than 3 feet from the ground as long as it terminates higher. You just want to make sure that there's no mulch, grass, scrubs, etc. in close proximity to the pipe that could be ignited. If you are in snow country you also need to terminate the pipe above the level of any drifting snow you might get.

    Follow the recommendations of the stove manufacturer as far as the amount of vertical rise needed for your stove. Any rise inside or out counts. I'm assuming a basement install so you'll likely need to make sure that you don't exceed the maximum number of feet for the pipe. Remember, 90* angles, and T's add to that figure.

    If it's at all possible you might want to just continue the pipe above the window. As I understand the code the termination needs to be either 4' horizontally from the window or 4' vertically from the window. Not necessarily both. You'll likely be fine but do consider the direction of your prevailing winter winds. If there's any chance that the wind could push the exhaust towards the window then consider sealing it so that it can't be opened or leak exhaust into the house. Invest in a good carbon monoxide detector if you don't already have one.

    A little planning and extra expense now will save you headaches down the road. You can often find additional pieces of vent pipe on Ebay for less should you need them.
  8. bobswworld

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    Thanks pegdot,

    So from what you say this might be doable, the vent would be on the opposite side of where we get our wind. there is nothing around the area to burn except the house and it has aluminum siding so not to flammable, will keep the 15 inch away from house as the manufacturer recommends. It just won't be in the most desireable place in basement but not bad.
    I do have another chimney in the house but it would be about a 6ft horizontal run and they say that is not good.
    Now I need to find some vent pipe Kit. The company I bought my englander 55 shp10 off of had the kits but I thought I was going thru the chimney so I declined, he had the simpson 3000 kit for 190 and now it is more money and not available.

    There are other brands what should I get for the price and availability?

    thanks all
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