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NYS DEC Part 247 Regulations

Post in 'The Boiler Room - Wood Boilers and Furnaces' started by Awillard, May 29, 2010.

  1. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    In the best of all possible worlds (which does not exist), those manufacturers who sold tens of millions of dollars worth of the things would have to chip in and allow you to upgrade cheap....share the pain a bit.

    On the other hand, a very efficient unit in the USA might get the 30% federal tax credit and do even better when and if the new Home Star Energy thingy passes.

    Please take my insider word in this - the OWB loophole was VERY intentionally taken advantage of by the makers.......this is not an issue that was win-win-win, but more of an issue of "I see an opening to make money by skirting the spirit of safety and air pollution regulations".

    Another interesting FYI. In the earlier time of OWB, you would be very luck to get more than 7 years out of a unit without a lot of leaking and in many cases replacement. I'm sure units have improved and people got smarter about water treatments, etc. - but still 10 years is a valid lifespan considering the history.

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  2. Frozen Canuck

    Frozen Canuck Minister of Fire

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    I agree that it was an act with intent. However I & many others did not do the research necessary to find a better way, so soon it will be time to face the music, I dont have a problem with that, as I being one that has caused the problem should face the consequences of that action. Pretty straight forward cause & effect in my book.



    Leaddog: Govt is the same here, rarely rational. React far more than act. Usually in an over the top manner. However if I & others were not burning dirty then they would be happy to sit on the sidelines. You see I & others have given them something to react to & we should all know that it usually ends badly for us in that situation.
  3. USA-1

    USA-1 New Member

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    You don't even know if your nearest neighbor is 2 miles away or 3 miles away? Yet, you say your boiler is fouling their air?!! And it's your fault?
    Your stories reek of BS. I don't know for real how many other screen names you type your anti- US boiler 'stories' for, but this frozen canuck 'character'
    is less believable than Shrek.
    C'mon, you guys are going to have to do better than this one.
  4. webbie

    webbie Seasoned Moderator Staff Member

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    Strike two, USA..........third is the charm.

    Sorry to say, but you are the troll - probably financially involved. If you had just a bit of smarts, you could have looked back through the last year of Canucks posts and seen where he is from and what he has....no BS.

    Strike two - my delete button finger is itching, itching, itching...

    BTW, why is someone from NH so worried about NYS regs?
  5. Frozen Canuck

    Frozen Canuck Minister of Fire

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    Why not just let him go at it the way he has been?

    100 responsible gaser owner/operators could not convince people to move away from OWB's as fast as he can with the way he chooses to behave, gives everyone an inside look at the OWB industry (as that is what he represents) he also gives everyone a good idea of how much they should believe when near an OWB salesperson. IMHO. Good eye opener for anyone considering an OWB. He alone is reason enough to turn & run the other way, preferably to a reputable gaser dealer/salesperson.......but away from the OWB for sure.
  6. Mauler

    Mauler Member

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    hey guys, newbie here

    I've looked but I can't find what units DO meet the new NY regs. Any help?

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