OAK drama...

briansol Posted By briansol, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 PM

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  1. briansol

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    steve's picture is the ps40. i have the pi40. they are basically the same stove save for insert model vs free standing model. the manual is one in the same, with a few variances for the sides/etc that are different. the 'guts' are all the same though.
    the pic looks right. I have that same red vac line and the rest looks the same to me too.
     
  2. Delta-T

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    i was just gonna say that the motors are reversed on the FS and the insert, so the picture really doesn't help a lot in terms of what should be on your unit.
     
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    My coloring skills stink, But this is all you need to complete the connection. oak connection.jpg
     
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    ...looks like French's Mustard, lol. I do not recommend mustard for OAK. If you take a look in the manual for stuff relating to OAK you'll notice that there is no reduction in clearances to windows and doors when the oak is used. this "usually" means that the unit can draw air from multiple locations (possibly for the airwash). the old "path of least resistance" set up.
     
  5. briansol

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    That is only 1 bank. There is a 2nd bank to the right of the ignitor as well. there's 2 rectangles. it would need to have some Y in it.
     
  6. jtakeman

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    Its possible the volume needed could be draw thru 1 bank and the other could be blocked off? You would need to measure the openings and see if the one nearest is the same size or more than the tube size on the connector.

    Just a guess, But I doubt you'd need both connected as the tube size would be all that could be used to draw in.
     
  7. briansol

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    I'm wondering if it would burn unevenly though. I already have an ash issue where the exhaust side gets 3/4 of the ash build up and the flame leans that way too. It's always done this and it's not dirty or anything else.... it's just the side the exhaust is on.
     
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    IDK, But next time you have it out. See if the two inputs connect to each other(run a wire from one side and see if it can be seen on the other side)? If they do, Then connecting one most likely will work. If they do not connect and each is its own passage, Then you would need to make a Y.
     
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    Yeah, sat when i clean it again i'll take a stick in under the burn pot and see if it goes all the way across with the ignigtor there.
     
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    Hey JT...Need some help!! I am sitting here on autocad trying to draw a three sided rectangle (couldn't do it)...Fired up Revit and tried to draw it in 3D (still failed)...Please Help me visualize this new geometric shape!

    Also, I am planning on installing an OAK and may need your input, so don't take this personally;) (LOL)!
     
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    Can't help ya draw it, My job is to build it! :p
     
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    ..I think Jay ran out of French's mustard.
     
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    Raye's will work just fine I recommend their hot and spicy, or their schooner, or their (well by now you should have the idea).

    http://www.rayesmustard.com
     
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    I was low on mustard, I had to save some for my dogs and beans! Just enough left for tonights brats! :p
     
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    Once you get all that mustard out of your stove,.. you may try using a piece of down spout (tin) from HD or lowes, I believe they have the smaller size 2"X3".
     
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    Is the gutter/tin stuff acceptible to use?
     
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    Anything not combustable should be fine.
     
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    Well, lennox hasn't returned my emails in a week and half now.

    great.


    I took it apart to clean this weekend and did some more investigating.

    There are 2 banks on the bakside, but under the burn pot, only the opposite side of the intake pipe fitting is open. So, to the right of the ignitor is looking at from standing in the chimney (yeah, don't ask... i was basically santa this weeend :D lol) So, fabbing this might be more difficult that i thought after all, due to the bends, but may be easier due to it only being 1 bank.
     
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    More progress on this finally. Lennox says this part should have been welded on from the factory. They don't know how it ever left the factory like this, let alone got installed this way. The mfg'er said the stove shouldn't even burn like this. This questions my safety.... I don't think it's a big deal as its in my fireplace. But its still scary when a mfg'er says it's shouldn't even work this way. WTF.

    The dealer is involved now and they are probably going to come out and take pics, etc that Lennox wants to see from them (not form me)... Lennox said they don't know if it can be retro-fit as it is a welded-on part, and that's if they can even get the part as the stove is discontinued, and there was never a part number for this piece as it is not a replacable part.

    It's a bit early to say this, but I might be getting a new stove.... on them. And since the model I have, is no longer being made..... who knows what may come. So, things are about to get interesting with this, that's for sure.


    All i wanted was some dang outside air......
     
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    Well you could open a winder? :p just kidding!

    Hopefully it all gets worked out for ya!
     
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    That Torrington place did mine install. Stove balanced on a couple bricks in hearth, didn't want to block off or oak for etc.. I wish I weren't so green when I hired.
     
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    The stove shouldn't burn? Its an intake? Its missing a cover? Why would it not burn. If anything, it should breathe better

    Here is to hoping they are gonna give you a new unit anyways. Good luck :)
     
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    yeah, i don't know. i feel like i'm talking with no one who knows anything most the time.

    story of my life i guess. lol
     
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    I'm tired of the run around from all this. I sent an email to scott to see if he wants the job and can pull it off. hoping he can save the day. But, understand if he's not for the task.

    hopefully I can have him out this summer and can set me up with a liner that doesn't suck and an outside air intake and shroud too.

    i can't wait to move.
     
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