oak to coldest room?oak to coldest room?

[3650]

for better circulation. it should pull warm air back there. i know everyone will aay there is a chanch to back feed, but with no oak its going to backfeed on the wall at the back of the stove, right?

 

[heat seeker]

It just might help the circulation, but you'll still be burning inside air and drawing colder outside air into the building. I think the OAK should go to the outside, and fans used for circulation if needed. Just my 2¢.

 

[DexterDay]

Are you asking if you can pull your combustion air from another room? The answer is no. The OAK must draw air from outide. Your cold room will be warmer by doing it this way.

Either OAK from "Outside" thats why its calles an outside air kit.

If you put it in another room. The stove still has to pull air in from outside. So your really doing nothing at all. Besides asking for troubles. In the case of a power outage, the air may reverse and come into the room.

Maybe I read the question wrong? Please be more specific.

 

[imacman]

It just might help the circulation, but you'll still be burning inside air and drawing colder outside air into the building. I think the OAK should go to the outside, and fans used for circulation if needed.....

Agreed

 

[3650]

ok makes sense about still drawing outdoor air in through the house, but not clear on feedback. if youre not using oak then the intake is open to the back of the stove so it feedsback there in event of outage. no more dangerous?

 

[heat seeker]

You could still get smoke in the house that way. You will also still be using inside air for combustion, drawing cold outside air into the building. IMO, an OAK to the outside is the only way to go.

 

[DexterDay]

You could still get smoke in the house that way. You will also still be using inside air for combustion, drawing cold outside air into the building. IMO, an OAK to the outside is the only way to go.

Yep. Outside. A living room with smoke is much different than a bedroom full of smoke.

 

[BrotherBart]

And nobody can convince me that there isn't some chance of or some CO from the intake during shutdown or power failures from these pellet puppies. Cumberland stoves used to just come out and say it but I guess their competitions lawyers had a talk with them because they took it out of the ads last year.

Edit: And I am willing to bet that ESW doesn't make an OAK mandatory just because their "might" be negative pressure in a house.

Spent three hours today routing that blasted OAK for the 25-PCVC in the basement.

 

[DexterDay]

Yeah BB. Thats why Harman and Fahrenheit use a butterfly damper on the intake. When the stoves shuts down. The exhaust can only go out the exhaust.

 

[Meneillys]

So why not run it to the room then put a one way valve in line so that if the stove is not on the flapper shuts and no smoke or CO. I did not run my stove with an oak for a couple years and still think about removing it due to the nasty cold temps I get some times. When it was -20 out side my stove could not make good heat after putting the OAK to outside. Heating -20 air is harder than 70 degree air. I know it is pulling the cold into the house some place but it just felt warmer with out it.

 

[BrotherBart]

Combustion is better with the colder air. I don't claim to be an engineer but before the fancy devices we put ice cubes on top of the carbs before a drag race and definitely saw a difference. Not in heat output, in being slammed back against the seat. :lol:

No I am not going to put ice cubes in my OAK. :lol:

 

[Meneillys]

Combustion is better with the colder air. I don't claim to be an engineer but before the fancy devices we put ice cubes on top of the carbs before a drag race and definitely saw a difference. Not in heat output, in being slammed back against the seat. :lol:

No I am not going to put ice cubes in my OAK. :lol:

True my diesel loves the cold. The temp on my exchanger tubes dropped 10 degrees when it was in the negatives. Maybe I had a bad bag of pellets I am always running different brands to see what the competition has. I also am no engineer.

 

[heat seeker]

Cold air is denser, which engines like. Maybe a pellet stove likes the denser, but colder, air???

 

[BrotherBart]

Any combustion appliance loves colder denser air. More oxygen in it.

 

[krooser]

I AM an engineer.... and YES that IS my pellet stove...

 

[heat seeker]

And, it's portable! I'm jealous!

Great grip on the Johnson bar, too... %-P

 

[WoodPorn]

And nobody can convince me that there isn't some chance of or some CO from the intake during shutdown or power failures from these pellet puppies. Cumberland stoves used to just come out and say it but I guess their competitions lawyers had a talk with them because they took it out of the ads last year.

Edit: And I am willing to bet that ESW doesn't make an OAK mandatory just because their "might" be negative pressure in a house.

Spent three hours today routing that blasted OAK for the 25-PCVC in the basement.

See the first sentence in the ESW link below:

http://www.englanderstoves.com/manuals/PU-OAK_Info.pdf

 

[BrotherBart]

And nobody can convince me that there isn't some chance of or some CO from the intake during shutdown or power failures from these pellet puppies. Cumberland stoves used to just come out and say it but I guess their competitions lawyers had a talk with them because they took it out of the ads last year.

Edit: And I am willing to bet that ESW doesn't make an OAK mandatory just because their "might" be negative pressure in a house.

Spent three hours today routing that blasted OAK for the 25-PCVC in the basement.

See the first sentence in the ESW link below:

http://www.englanderstoves.com/manuals/PU-OAK_Info.pdf

Read MY sentence. The whole sentence.

 

[jtakeman]

And nobody can convince me that there isn't some chance of or some CO from the intake during shutdown or power failures from these pellet puppies. Cumberland stoves used to just come out and say it but I guess their competitions lawyers had a talk with them because they took it out of the ads last year.

Edit: And I am willing to bet that ESW doesn't make an OAK mandatory just because their "might" be negative pressure in a house.

Spent three hours today routing that blasted OAK for the 25-PCVC in the basement.

See the first sentence in the ESW link below:

http://www.englanderstoves.com/manuals/PU-OAK_Info.pdf

Read MY sentence. The whole sentence.

What I think BB means there is more to it why ESW wants the OAK installed. All I can say is when I tested what would happen if the power failed with one of my older stoves. Not only did it have smoke coming out of it it also got pretty darn hot.

 

[BrotherBart]

What I think BB means there is more to it why ESW wants the OAK installed. All I can say is when I tested what would happen if the power failed with one of my older stoves. Not only did it have smoke coming out of it it also got pretty darn hot.

Yep. I am hoping that 33 foot 5.5" liner will draft hard enough to pull all the smoke if I have a power failure. It sucks like a Hoover with a wood stove. I guess I will find out someday.

Got the all metal OAK hooked up anyway.

 

[Don2222]

Hello

Our house has 3 OAKs

1. Pellet Stove

2. LP DV Fireplace

3. Oil Boiler (That really pulls alot of air into the Carlin Burner!!)

If they all used inside air, I might get sucked up the chimney with it

 

[WoodPorn]

I must have read the post wrong...I thought is said ESW doesn’t make an OAK mandatory.