Okanagan Quality

no no i was referring to Salty as the bad guy per his post " im the bad guy "
i got no beef with Mr Warm, in business chit happens. im sure he will make it right

I though I was the bad guy for tryin to esplain! Salty? Nah he's just a trouble maker! jk hehe!

Where can I get some of these Black Hills? I'm willing to try for 10K btus! Too bad you didn't like the La Cretes. They burned really well in my stove. If you ever take a ride to Robbins in Oxford, try out the North Idaho Energy Pellets. They burned with little to no ash and very little fines in the bags. Very good heat too.

j the entire ton is like this and no mention was made of swapping. They're in my basement I'm burnin them. My stove don't mind the fines unless it gets a chute blockage which is easy to fix.

Smalltown I asked for feedback on the blackhills in another thread on here they were talked about a few months ago. Haven't found much abt them online. Supposed to be hot hot hot.

Dude, They should take those back! My stove would burn them too, But wow, For what your paying thats just not right!

Whats out there now is hotter than what I tried. But I wouldn't get all fuzzy with all them numbers. The big one is moisture free. Corrected or actual moisture content will be lower. I have the lab results on another drive and its at work. I'll post them in the Black Hills thread when I get a chance.

Well I don't disagree but whose gonna load them. Not my 48 year old back. I got to carry them upstairs that's bad nuff

I need to make a decision tonite. Do I pickup the other ton tomorrow morning or do I tell them to change to the black hills and add the other ton. I'd really like to burn straight okies thru January and February then save the trebios and infernos for shoulder season mixing. If I pass up this ton tomorrow then who knows when I will get any more?

lol hotdawg they arent 10k salty getting carried away

I bought some spruce points like that last year,25 bags....burned good but wasnt impressed with all the fines and mushed pellets for the premium price. i never picked up anymore. I had SIB deliver 2 tons of mwp softies...awsome pellet...at 239 per ton even....
If you are gonna pay 300 per ton,i would try Cubex if you can get them....great pellet,but too pricey for me.
I would have thought okies would be better....no wonder your steamed....i would be too

Jay said takem back, i doubt anyone is gonna tell you to go get more LOL

It's funny, Harman owners tend to like MWP pellets more than other stove owners. The hasn't been much said here about the softies, but the few comments I have read people weren't overly impressed, other than Sinnian and now Bugize.

OK, Straight scoop! Doug emailed and said I should call him. So I did and all he would say is it was a hiccup at the bagging plant. Yep, New equipment blues! Problem has been addressed, corrected and Shouldn't happen again. Whats coming from the mill now is as dust free as he can get them. He also stated Salty has talked to him as well and No he won't send ten tons to ya salty. He might get ya a couple of bags for your troubles if you call.

They are not yet re-pelleting the dust, Its close but still not ready.

WTH do I know?

The first pic looks like water damage. I bought some loose bags from HD that ended up like that several years ago. As the pellets explode, the saturated sawdust has a puffy experience.

THEN THEY LIED TO ME AND EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE.

This was NOT discussed on MY phone call. It was discussed that they have a problem.

"It's been taken care of"

YA KILLIN ME.

You really believe this? Ya gotta stop stumping for these guys J.


Seriously if you popped some of these bags you can't even classify them as pellets. They're more CHIPS and CHUNKS than pellets. Even Doug admits they're like that.

But I find it LAUGHABLE that he told you it's been taken care of. Sure it has. On a Friday afternoon magically after I complain. Sure.

I told him flat out their quality was better with the white bags or anything that came out of the plant before this year. Plain and simple they're putting CRAP out on the market.

Now I'm pissed. Why? Because he fed you this line of shat and it's not true.

I'm done with phone calls. If I wanted CRAP I could have gone somewhere and gotten their cheapest pellet. I paid for high end quality. The local shop is selling them for $6.50 a bag. HIGH END QUALITY IS EXPECTED.

These are far from that. I'll post a video later and you guys can make your own decision. I've made mine..

And I don't expect anything for free as I said earlier. I expected at least the same quality that I've bought the last few years.

I didn't get that.. and others should know objectively before they waste their money too.

been burning vermonts, every bit as good in the heat department and great consistancy...comes from New England...so there is a BONUS, and the company is owned by a woman...not that it should matter but I would say the pellet heating industry is largely male...

i dont understand how you could even consider going for another ton if they are bad as your saying, and im not denying their bad

Vermonts are awesome....only thing better IMHO is the Blazers and and not by much.

Really i didnt think they were hotter then the Somersets, guess ill have to try them again. I'd like to find Blazers to try

Turman 165-180 2.6
Hearthside 155-160 2.5
Vermont 175-185 2.5
Blazers 170-185 2.78
MWP 155-160 2.45
Timber Heat 180-187 2.9
NEWP 150-155 2.36
PWI 165-170 2.8
Natures Heat 155-160 2.5

This is some heat numbers I came up with...all done the same day...the only reason I give the nod to Blazers is because if their ridiculous ash content. T o be fair I do not have numbers this year for Somersets but I know their ash level was higherlast year. What you see is the heat range with a temp probe one inch from the exchanger....the other number is burn rate

Those are some high numbers for Timber heat, they that hot??

They did for me but they also fed very fast....seemed to be a pretty dense pellet based just on a visual.

Guys just a heads up I had talked to doug about this 2, I picked up 25 bags and they looked good but when I got home there was a lot of broken pellets. I could see from my other stash of oakies right next to them.
BUT they still burn wicked hot and I'm sure it will be fixed.

This was from East Coast lumber in Hampstead NH, I didn't call them to complain because they think a pellet is a pellet, but I'm sure all will be well soon.

I clean my pellets always so it is not that big of a deal for me..

And the sleeper for this year has to be the Turman pellets, hands down awesome little to no ash and the heat is like the old cubex of years past. Just picked up Two tons of them

Salty, I'd say you should have "stated" you already talked to Doug. I was taken off guard once I found out while speaking with him. I would have stayed out of it. He did say you said that they were burning hot and not causing any issues with your stove. I'd think if they were causing problems Doug would have worked with you or anyone else.

I'm not trying to stump anyone, Just trying to "get" whats going on. I'm just reading between the lines! I haven't seen them and can only say what Doug said to me and what you are saying. Stuck in the middle tis all. We only discused the fines in the bag. I did not know there were lots of small or broken pellets like fish-on is saying. Only other thing he stated was the product from BC was in the bulk railcars since September due to the mill delays.

IMHO, We are only hearing Salty's side of the bash, All Doug would say is he will take his lumps on this one and assured they will fix it. He even suggested I will get lumped up with him if I said anything(guess he was right!). I'll back away and let you and doug hash this chit out. This really doesn't concern me as I don't want any fingers pointed at me. IMHO I should have kept far away from this one!

Nice comparision. I gotta try those Timber heats(Local Lowes has em). Turmans, Vermonts and Blazers are right up there too!

I get the 180-187 is the temps, But whats the 2.9 number?