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okies......lots of ash in this batch

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by HEMI, Dec 25, 2010.

  1. Jack Morrissey

    Jack Morrissey Feeling the Heat

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    Picked up a couple of bags of Vermont wood pellets and thought the wife had cleaned the stove (yea right) hardly any ash!!!

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  2. HEMI

    HEMI Feeling the Heat

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    hows the heat output on those Vermonts?
  3. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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  4. smilejamaica

    smilejamaica Feeling the Heat

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    i have burned 10 bags this year .great heat about half the ash compared to my new england pellets . excellent pellet A+++++
  5. Jack Morrissey

    Jack Morrissey Feeling the Heat

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    Havent gotten around to taking the temp yet, but seems pretty good!
  6. Pellet-King

    Pellet-King Minister of Fire

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    Burning oakies and hamers yesterday, very low ash, natures heat my $150 specials i bought last fall fill the stove with ash in no time, not much in there now.
  7. mascoma

    mascoma Feeling the Heat

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    BTU make sure you add this comment about okies to your signature line from above post...

    "I am unimpressed with the Okies… more ash than I expected and talk about dusty, sheesh!"
  8. mascoma

    mascoma Feeling the Heat

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    while everyone is bitching about dusty pellets. Picked up few bags of Energex Soft wood from dealer last week... It was like I was working in a saw mill, fines everywhere, in the house, the wood shed, they car, the stove, beside the stove. They burned ok and where priced ok but I would not bother with the hassle of cleaning up sawdust all the time.
  9. Doocrew

    Doocrew Feeling the Heat

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    I would add the same comment about the cleanfire pacifics I got this year. The wife is complaining to beat the band about the dust everywhere near the stove. I also had the same issue a few years ago with some LG's. The Greene Team I burned last year were perfect. No dust and maybe less than a tablespoon of fines in the bottom of the bag. Call me crazy, but dust seems to be a consistent problem with softwoods, at least from what I have experienced. I dont mind the dust as long as it is a good burning pellet.
  10. mpcm

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    I just starter burning my first bags of okies. The heat output is both noticeable in the room and on the thermometer on the wall. I don't use a thermometer connected to the stove, so the feed rate is the same. Given the snow and the serious winds, this was a welcomed change over. Just my immediate experiences, will report back about the ash levels after a couple bags.
  11. morsnow

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    good heat, dustiest pellet Ive ever had. Its the fine dust that gets everywhere when you pour them in the hopper. Ill bet its because they are shipped so far. Buy local, and remember all that diesel burned geting them okies all the way across the continent.
  12. bosco

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    We bought Okies for the first time this year and we love them! They are a bit dusty, but seeing that I don't have to shut the stove down constantly due to clinkers, I don't mind. They burn clean and hot and we are really happy. Picked up another ton last week.
  13. newf lover

    newf lover Minister of Fire

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    I've tried a large number of the high quality pellets; they're all dusty! I think it's the nature of the beast. As long as they burn hot and don't produce a ridiculous amount of ash, I'm not going to get excited about dust.
  14. tinkabranc

    tinkabranc Minister of Fire

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    I been burning softwoods for some years and never had a reason to "groan" about them nor do I now.

    Yeah, some of my bags are loaded with fines this year but it usually happens when they
    get handled too much. Doubt this is unique to softwoods.

    I am not really concerned tho as I just dump em into the hopper with the pellets anyway.
  15. Havlat24

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    Well if your taking your fibre from a planer mill and your saying your fibre is 100% bark free I call BS.... I work in the industry and every debarker I have seen doesn't totally clean the log of bark..especially in the winter. Those outside boards that go through the planer with bark on them and get planed will put bark into your fibre... Especially when that planer runs a black/low grade run.

    I'm familiar with the moisture meters and drying technology you speak of... they are great, except they are feedback systems, and will only adjust drying controls after wet product has left the dryer.... so its possible wet material will find its way into the mix in the time between the system detects wet material and the adjustments are made. I draw this from years of QC experience drying veneer for plywood manufacturing.

    The moisture meters you use are probably self calibrating, so I don't know why you would calibrate them every 2 months....

    Furthermore the moisture range of the shavings coming from a planer can be anywhere from 12-22+ %... its not uncommon for mills to run a huge amount of stock through a planer that is too wet....


    You seem to stand by your product which is commendable... but I managed/developed the QC Program in my mill..and I can list a multitude of QC checks that should be getting done.... when push comes to shove the mill will run to meet production quota's... Even if it means getting a supervisor to increase the inbound moisture content of the fibre.....
  16. johnnycomelately

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    If knowledge were dollars, there would be no reseccion anywhere in this thread!
  17. smoke show

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    now thats quoteable right there. :lol: :bug:
  18. Havlat24

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    BTU....

    Finest boards anywhere.... Lumber is graded to NLGA grade rules...which means it is manufactured and cut from the sawmill with wane... (wane = bark) The boards are manufactured larger then the finished size....so when they go through the planer.... the surfaces on the boards that have wane (bark) are also sized down so that is how bark gets into your shavings ... A #2 board (most mills produce this...) can have half the board waned out..... The trimming that takes place happens after the planer....

    Kiln Dried = 19% moisture content or less.... That is the standard to which mills dry their lumber.. Species such as Balsam fir which are dried with spruce/pine/fir cannot be dried to below 19% using a spruce/pine drying schedule...so these wets get planed and identified after the planer with a moisture meter.....


    Your a salesperson...and it shows.... Im a 11 year QC guy who has produced over 2 billion feet of lumber. Your know not what you speak.


    Im going to print this out so the QC department here can get a good laugh though.. thanks.
  19. geek

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    for whatever reason i've noticed my okies are a little bit inconsistent, some bags burn just great while others burn with lot of ash, may be the batch i've got.
  20. Pellet-King

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    Maybe there supply isn't as good as it used to be, i have a few bag's of Okies i bought last yr, the heat on lower levels isnt as good as Hamer's I tried, dont know cause there "old", stored in a dry garage but humidity can be a factor, as the big box lower there prices the big names are sufferin!!
    Okanagan has most likely been around a long time they i'm sure used to sell them for $140 or less
  21. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    Oil prices are rising and pellet prices holding somewhat steady. Although the stackes are still kind of high I do see more peeps switching off the oil and firing back up there stoves. This spring buy should be interresting, With pellets sales picking up and if oil climbs more? Wanna bet the prices of pellets start to climb too!

    I'm gonna top off again here shortly just in case!
  22. newf lover

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    I was thinking the same thing; have room in my basement. The problem is, I don't have a truck, so it's not very cost effective to just have 2 tons delivered.
  23. johnnycomelately

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    I only come here looking for answers and I find myself watching school kids argue. Okies are a decent pellet so who flippin cares if Havlat's mill does thier lumber differently than another mill. This is about pellets in general, not your wood;).
  24. Havlat24

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    They are good pellets..but the used car salesperson drivel about something he has no clue about is what gets me. The pellets can stand on their own.... without claims that they come from a mill that produces the finest boards in the world...with no bark..and perfect kiln drying...... What's next.... their mill is run totally on solar power...and they are switching to biodegradable sunchip bags?
  25. The Radiator

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    Just started getting into the half ton of okie's I have. These are one of the dustiest pellets I have burnt. The wife has already started with the comments. Funny odor to them too. They burn good though, ash so far hasn't been an issue, just the dust. Oh well, I'll keep dumping them in the hopper. :)

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