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  1. smithdc

    smithdc New Member

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    Have a Lennox T300 for the past 5 years and have never been happy with it (lemon) looking at replacing it with either a Enviro Mini or Piazzette Monia, heating an old school house high ceilings any suggestions or comments would be appreciated

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  2. EastMtn

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    How many square feet are you trying to heat? How tall are the ceilings? When you say old schoolhouse I'm assuming not good insulating qualities or have you updated it? The Mini and the Monia are both great stoves. You can't go wrong with either choice. The Mini has a very small footprint and is a quiet stove. I've considered that one as a possible second stove for the house. the Monia comes in porcelain sides which is cooler to the touch than the steel sides of the Mini. Both are very quiet.
  3. smithdc

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    well lets see the school house main floor is about 900 sq ft, there is a loft of about 400sq ft main floor is open to loft and at the open point the ceiling would be about 20ft to the peak. I do have a heat pump as well so the stove is additional heat on those lovely -15 to 25 Celcius days like we just had. Walls are insulated with old fibreglass innerwalls and under the new siding outside 11/2 insulation styro the ceiling has the least.
  4. chken

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    Seems like a Monia, 37k btu unit could handle that size, but in Maine where I bought my Sabrina, it was only $300 more than the Monia. You don't want to oversize your stove, then again, undersizing is a bigger risk.
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    Point taken you can turn them down but when they are up all the way there is no more. The way the wind blows here sometimes a little extra BTU would be a good thing. Thanks
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    Looks like it is going to be the Monia, they have one in stock here so should have it in, in a few days.
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  7. EastMtn

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    Congratulations. May it provide years of trouble free warmth. Being in Canada I'm assuming that you will have an OAK (oustide air kit) installed. If you have a ceiling fan turn it on low in the reverse direction and it will help push some of that warm air from those 20ft ceilings back down to the inhabited space.
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    Check out Paromax. I could not be happier with the -30s we have been getting. Just light it and forget it. The 12 volt back up is worth every penny! You don't need to burn premium pellets.
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    Talked to the dealer who is also the owner and installer a friend I have known for many years he had been doing this for a long time and he didn'. feel I needed to have one
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    Have not heard of them down here they are from Quebec I see how much are they the back up power sounds like a great idea
  11. EastMtn

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    Hopefully your friend is correct. On page 5 of the manual it states:

    "To ensure trouble-free operation the stove must have the necessary
    air available for combustion and this is provided through the fresh air
    intake.
    The fresh air intake must:
    -- have a total free cross section at least equal to the size given in the
    paragraph “TECHNICAL DATA”;
    -- be protected by a grille or suitable guard provided it does not reduce
    the minimum recommended section;
    -- be in a position whereby it cannot be obstructed."

    An OAK is not necessary if you have an adequate fresh air source like the manual states above.
    Just my .02 cents. Either way the stove should serve you well. Post some pics of the stove installed if you get a chance. We like pics here.:)
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    I would figure the Enviro would be easier to get parts/maintenance for.
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    He was in today to get the old stove out and I asked him again about it and as he said it also states on page 5 that "it is recommended that the stove be connected to an outside source of combustion air "
    under certain conditions" ( negative pressure) he said that is not a problem here and he has only had to connect to outsdie air when he has installed stoves in R2000 homes.
    New stove tomorrow morning. !!!!!!!
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  14. smithdc

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    Well the installer and the distributor of these stoves are right across the road from each other and is only a 10 minute drive from here. Still have a heat pump as well.
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    An outside air kit is required in many stoves, so be sure to check the manual. An oak also prevents backdraft and smokeback I think.
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    I haven't heard of a dealer recommending an OAK, ever. I think they don't like them because the fee they can charge doesn't justify the time it takes to install one.

    The government recommends that outside air makeup be provided for any fuel burning appliance.
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    That's hard to beat. What does the dealer think of Piazzetta's? Have they come across any feedback from customers or servicers?
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    Well she's in and up and running amazingly quiet and the heat this stove pumps out compared to that Lennox no comparison
    This is the first one he has installed the distributor across the road Road from him actually went to Italy to tour the factory and see stoves in use there before he agreed to carry them. I guess he was very impressed so am I
    We couldn't get over how quiet it was when we first fired it up
    Glass does need cleaning every day or 2 small price to pay for the heat and efficiency
    Very pleased so far would look good beside my Fiat Spider lol
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    One other thing it says to run at high for 5 to 10 hours in a well vented room to allow the enamel side panels to evaporate off paint this should be done for sure. Have not been able to let it run for more than a couple of hours yet. Can not run at 4 yet as still getting some fumes off it, is getting less but it does smell for the first 5 hours or so at high you wouldn't want to stay in the room for sure
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    Yes, the fumes were ghastly the first day.
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    It's getting better a couple more burns at 4 for a few hours and it should be done. Did you do yours all in 1 burn?
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    No, I had to do 2 separate high heat burns, just like they explain in the manual.
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    It will take us probably one more, have not had a chance to leave it running for 4 or 5 hours without us here. Have only been out a couple of time for about 2 to 3 hours. Weather has been so bad up here can't go anywhere much, ice storms, snow storms. It's a winter wonderland up here, glad I got a new stove. Do you have the humidifier on yours? If so is it worth it and how much extra was it, it is listed as an option.
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    It will probably take me another one as we haven't been out for more than a 2 to 3 hours at a time with the ice and snow storms up here in December. Glad I got a new stove. Do you have the humidifier, is it worth it, how much is it for the option?
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    I vaguely recall my dealer said the humidifier was $55. I haven't gotten it, because I'm just like you, I wanted to know if others had tried it and whether they thought it was worth it. No one seems to have tried it!

    I've always told people, that if Maine winters got too tame due to global warming, I'd have to move to Nova Scotia!

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