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Pellet stoves make huge gains and why does EU have the cool cars

Post in 'The Inglenook' started by smwilliamson, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    I do believe I read that Energy Star is not long for this world. I hope I'm right.

    As for safety standards, Snowy, European standards have to be better than ours with the speeds they drive. :) Our government, as you point out, needs to get their noses AND hands out of our pockets.

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  2. bill3rail

    bill3rail Feeling the Heat

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    Why are the vehicle economy ratings in the UK twice that of the US?
    The .GOV has done NOTHING to help the automobile industry, or any other industry.
    VW 21Mpg in USA, same car and engine in the UK is 44Mpg. Both rated in Mpg.
  3. briansol

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    The uk variants tend to have smaller engines (ie, 1.8 here, 1.3 there).
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    Diesel as well..
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    If I had a 100K car it would be a Tesla, so that I didn't have to work on the car on Saturdays. ;lol
  6. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    Perhaps, but turbo charged and more pep than the US version, believe it or not.
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    Ford has been using the same styling and features in their European cars here in the states. See the new focus and fusion, aka the mondeo in Europe. Turbo charged 1.6 and 2.0 engines.
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    smoke show Guest

    GM does it too. Like the chevy cruze. I believe its a turboed 1.3L.
  9. briansol

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    That's new this (or last) year though... the uk has been doing it for 20 years.
  10. tjnamtiw

    tjnamtiw Minister of Fire

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    But NOT diesels, which is the point of our digression. Turbo charge a little diesel and you get both great performance and great mileage. Here a turbo charged gas engine gets relatively lousy mileage thanks to the EPA.
  11. briansol

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    I have a 2.0T genesis coupe ... I can get 30mpg out of it if I try... and do no more than 60mph. usually around 20-23 because my foot is in it :p

    its not so much that the engine isn't efficient, its that the cars way so damn much these days.

    an 88 civic got 45 mpg, but it weight 1900 lbs.
    a 2013 civic gets 32 on a good day, and weighs like 3200.
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    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    Fellas - since this thread hasn't been pellet stove oriented since about post #10, I think I am gonna slip it into the Inglenook section. Post on - I just think it is a better fit.
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    100k is when they start breaking in!, for years i bough new car's, wasted 100k, now i only buy 500 dollar bomber's, why, i'm a ASE master Tech!!
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    Is it common practice for mods to change a title of a thread? I did not put the EU cars thing on there
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    Jags Moderate Moderator Staff Member

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    Scott, I did that. The original title didn't fit the thread drift. You guys were having meaningful conversation and thought it would bring more attention to the current discussion.

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