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Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by mmckee83, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. schoondog

    schoondog Feeling the Heat

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    Whoops. Just backed up and saw your list. I'm goin for the powerhouse. FaIr to good heat at a good price. Get a ton and then play around with some of the others. You should be OK.​
    Doggy​

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  2. allFIREDup

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    I don't get mad. not sure where your getting my used stove. My stove was new when i bought it...never been used. Just more Malarkey from you, it's all you have to go on based on your premise. That's your opinion, that your cheap stove is a better deal..not mine. Fact, a harman is a higher sought after stove than what you have...holds its value. I don't overpay for pellets...you have to, to keep that stove going so you won't wear it out. Your just a follower here trying to be accepted. If someone here with lots of posts says it's so then it must be...that's how you think. If you want to use higher priced pellets in that cheap stove then go for it. you should have purchased a better stove to begin with so you wouldn't need high priced pellets. My use of my stove has shown that i don't need to. If it didn't i would tell you...runs great...heats beautifully..pellets 189.00 a ton..house 75 degrees...life is good. The savings on pellet use,reliability and resale value make it a better deal. That's it end of story. Oh and your stove has a design flaw with the auger and you could possibly get a "burn back" if you use less expensive pellets. A known problem with that 6039.
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  3. schoondog

    schoondog Feeling the Heat

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    Wow. Finally gonna get to use the ignore button. Goodbye!

    Doggy
  4. craigsward

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    Wow this argument is really going in circles. I think allfiredups significant other must love arguing with him.
    All i know is Js research on pellet quality/output really helped me experiment with cheap vs old pellets the past couple seasons and I found his shoulder season pellet frigid season pellet theory is the most economical in my case. Not to mention between travel, 60 hours a week, and two kids under the age of 4 the less time I have to spend cleaning loading and maintaining is worth something to me.
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  5. schoondog

    schoondog Feeling the Heat

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    x2 Perfectly stated.

    Schoondog
  6. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    Even if my chit is full of malarkey, There is a reason why PFI tests for BTU content.

    I feel like I just spoke to the kid at lowes telling me all pellets are the same! And I'd hope someone has at least tried some of the other stuff before making such a fuss.

    If you walked into a Lowes and they had Somersets and Green Supremes. Which would you be grabbin?
  7. jlupi

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    If allfired feels infernos or whatever are more economical in his particular case/opinion why would that upset everyone??

    I have a question at what price point do most think a super premium pellet is NOT worth added cost?
  8. IHATEPROPANE

    IHATEPROPANE Minister of Fire

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    It all depends on what your options are.....if my only options were Green Supreme for 209 or Okies for 300+ I would buy the Green Supremes.....I am only making an educated guess I would save quite a bit of money but would be spending more time vaccuming which is a fact. My betting money would be if a real scientific study could be done under controlled conditions and prices were nit at the extremes we would find very similar amounts if money being spent.
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    This is definitely my all time favorite post. I have only had my stove for one year so I still consider myself a rookie.

    BUT, I still do have an opinion and that is that there is a significant difference between the low end "shoulder" pellets and the high end stuff. Last year I burned a ton of stove chow ($180, great price) as my shoulder pellet and a few bags of randoms that i picked up here and there. I also burned a ton of Barefoots ($290) and a ton of Vermonts ($280).

    If I could have picked up another ton of the Chow at that price I would have and used it as a shoulder again, but I can't. Prices are up this year on the cheap stuff. I see infernos and nations choice everywhere at $209. I tried both of those last year and they were junk. There was a decent deal for Maine Woods at $245 but I would have had to pick up.

    In the end, I found what I consider to be a great deal. Two tons of Cubex and one LG, delivered, and dropped in my garage for $290 per ton. If the LG burns anything like the Vermonts did I should be able to get the same heat on setting 1 as I did on heat setting 3 with the Chow. That works out to a lot less pellets being burned. When it gets real cold I'll be nice a cozy with the Cubex.

    No malarkey here. Just my opinion.
  10. schoondog

    schoondog Feeling the Heat

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    Good point. If you had GS at $209 or Hamers at $239, my garage is going to be full of Hamers. GS at $209 and Oakies at $300 are another debate. I tried them both and would probably purchase neither pellets at that price. I'd keep looking for a better deal. Delivery prices and ease of purchase/pickup also enter in to the equation. YOU need to get a few years of burning and testing under your belt to make the determination. This place should help you make that choice. I have purchased some lower grade pellets and they are OK for early and spring heating. I have burned some pretty good pellets that have made my life easier when its 0 deg. out. Some folks here have done some pretty scientific and honest, real time tests that my limited tests have found to be true. I have faith in the data because it mimics my data from my stove. Just think that some who have done little or no work on the subjects should be a little more careful doling out advise and telling long standing members they are wrong. OK to ask but to tell us we are wrong............:eek:

    Doggy
  11. allFIREDup

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    Exactly, it's common on these sites for that to happen. You get a few that are blinded by their ego. If someone questions the way they do something or has a different view they get all defensive and have to defend their ego less their little world coming crashing down like a house of cards. Very interesting. I never said that "ALL PELLETS ARE THE SAME" but his ego feels that's what I said. I clearly stated that their is no advantage in purchasing 50-100+ dollar premium on pellets for my stove and from my experience...it easily heats my home inexpensively, which is why I purchased a stove in the first place. I don't take what someone says as gospel just because they have 10k posts which is ego driven(the need to be the top dog) and especially when they try to portray someone as having a viewpoint that they don't have. Very interesting dynamics at play here. Pellet stoves aren't the most complicated contraption actually pretty simple...and it doesn't take years to know how every part on it operates. Their isn't a part on my stove that i don't understand how it operates and that i can't repair. Another ego game, leading one to believe that it takes years of burning pellets to understand this complicated contraption. It's just another case of someone trying to inflate their ego and impress. It's laughable. I feel like i'm dealing with a child..... immature personality and is all ego driven.
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    Had this been all you said, Cool. the rest makes you at least as bad as those that jumped on you.
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    Hm... Well! I gotta belly button too!

    *walks out*
  14. jtakeman

    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    What to get personal? I can do that. You think your the first I have rubbed elbows with? My world didn't just fall apart cause you say so!

    What I see, You had so many replies to your thread( I think the crickets enjoyed it!) you had to come over hear and spread your vast knowledge! Couldn't get the party going there, So come over here and cause a fuss to get some screen time. Yah that works. Your poking might border some of the site rules, But hey the mods aint looking!

    http://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/the-winner-is.80177/

    If you don't work for NEWP, you should. They could use your help from what I hear on the wire. Sales are pretty saggy lately. Might also want ot consider stand up comedy cause you crack me up! Pffft! hehe
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    So Jtakeman at what price differential would you go for the cheap GS pellet over Okies? at some point even the best pellets will become not cost effective. (if those were the only choice)
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    jtakeman Minister of Fire

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    Would I buy all Okies, Heck no! If thats what your looking for?

    Maybe its just me, I would still ration 1 ton of okies even at $300/ton for the cold snaps and Gs's for the shoulders. I do have a very hard time spending more than $250/ton for pellets. So If I can keep the average to that I'm OK. So 2 tons at $209 and 1 at $300 is in there($718).
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    I was looking for info on Somersets and ran across this thread. Thanks for the laughs, guys. Thanks for the laughs!!!!
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    schoondog Feeling the Heat

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    Ok How bout this. Just got in from a trip to town. Stopped by Lowes cause 20 year old leaf blower died and gotta replace it. Guy at work said they had all different pellets. Struck out on leaf blower but next aisle in are bags of pellets. Somersets and Green supremes $4.38 a bag. Go outside and they have Tons of pellets. GS, Green Teams, Cheat Rivers,Timber Heat, and Somersets. All but Green teams were $209 ,Green teams were $260. Somersets at $209. If you want them delivered the girl says you have to take what you get. I say i have a truck and want Somersets. OK she says $209. They won't let me buy them tonite, I have to pay and take them right then ( i don't have my truck, got work car) So bud and I will get a few tons tomorrow. OF SOMERSETS. Not Green supremes or $260 Green teams. The other pellets are OK but I think most of us would grab the somersets because we know they burn hotter and ash levels are average or better and your stove and significant other who loves warmth in the winter months will love you for your superior pellet knowledge. This what mcckee83 is looking for.

    Schoondog
  19. doghouse

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    So its a question of either "designer" or "off-the-rack" pellets. I've never been into haute couture
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    RightSeatCessna New Member

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    Forgive my ignorance but what are shoulders?
  21. schoondog

    schoondog Feeling the Heat

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    Shoulders are a inexpensive, lower performance pellet that will heat your space in the spring and fall when temps aren't as cold.

    Dog
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    Melissa220 Feeling the Heat

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    And then there are those of us who, for economic reasons, will be burning shoulder pellets all season because that's the only way we'll (I'll) have enough pellets and be able to stave off the oil man!:)
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    You go girl!
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    gfreek Minister of Fire

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    Doesn't the quality of each pellet manufacturer change year to year?? Or once they are noted as "shoulder pellets" that it....
  25. schoondog

    schoondog Feeling the Heat

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    My point is why burn a shoulder all season when for the same price you can brn a higher quality pellet ? And yes pellets do change and thats why you buy a few bags of different pellets each year to evaluate. And of course listen to the good folks here at Hearth to get an unbiased opinion of what is going on in the pellet world !

    Schoondog

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