Thanks to some of the gang here I found out the HD rental sells the saws for a reasonable price after they haqve been in the fleet for a while. I have a MS250 18" and it works great for limbing and cutting up to say 16" or so but having run into a fair amount of larger stuff it seemed like an larger saw would be a good addition. I have looked for the past several months for a used saw after pricing some of the new Stihls 36x 390 and while they would be nice it's just too much cash for the amount I would need it. What I found was folks are real proud of those used saws also and when I read about the Makita it looked like it might be a good fit . I called around and found one of the local stores has one a couple years old only rented out 24 times and in nice shape came with an new bar the old bar 2 new chains the manual and chain adjustment wrench for 215.00 so I brought it home today. Cut a bunch of oak and mulberry and the chain got dull pretty fast but the saw worked well. It sure powers thru the bigger stuff with out bogging like the 250 does. Who ever said the extra 2lb wouldn't matter because they were young and strong should give it a try use the 250 then switch to the DSC6401 it's a very big difference . While I would have liked to get another Stihl I think the Makita will fit the bill just fine and at a lot lower cost.