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Problem with the saw

Post in 'The Gear' started by PapaDave, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. PapaDave

    PapaDave Minister of Fire

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    Well, now I've done it.​
    Was cutting up a tree I took down and the chain came off the bar (my fault).​
    The chain break band is now out of shape and I can't get the cover back on. Do I need to buy a new cover (about $60) or is there something else that can be done?​
    Help?​

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  2. HittinSteel

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    sounds like the brake engaged......you will need to pull the chain brake handle in, that should loosen the band and allow the cover to go back on.
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  3. DexterDay

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    Yeah, I agree..

    I swapped a chain one day and left it engaged on my 455. Last time that happened. :)
  4. cygnus

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    I'm assuming you are talking about the Husky 455. Be absolutely sure the break is unlocked before you try to get the cover back on. Sooooooo many folks end up cursing up and down before realizing this one little point. Otherwise, if it's just the band that's bent you can replace it. Probably about $15. Try these guys: http://www.mowerpartpros.com
  5. PapaDave

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    Yeah, tried that. The band seems out of round now, like it got tweaked when it tripped.
    It WILL NOT go back on.:mad: Had trouble getting the cover off when I was going to reinstall the chain. Planned to flip the bar while I was at it.
    I have wood to cut.
  6. HittinSteel

    HittinSteel Minister of Fire

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    can you post a picture
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    Sure sounds like the brake is engaged.
    Don't know how you re-set it if the cover is off the saw.
    Could be tweaked, but can't see how it happened if you just slipped a chain.
    Got a husqy dealer that can look at it?
  8. HittinSteel

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  9. PapaDave

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    Thanks a lot guys. I'll double check the brake.
    Just went out to the shed and looked at it again. Sometimes, the best thing is to walk away, then go back to a problem (after talking to friends:cool:) with a fresh perspective.
    http://www.mowerpartpros.com/pages/oemparts#/Husqvarna_Power_Equipment/455e_RANCHER_II_(2012-06)/CHAIN_BRAKE/7045/7045|~0011
    Part #8 needed to be pried back into unlocked position, as I watched the band open back up. :cool: Learn something new every day. Wasn't tweaked after all.;hm
    I'll do the rest tomorrow, and get back to work.
    I greatly appreciate all the help. Saved me some coin. Now I can spend the money on a replacement bar.
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  10. bogydave

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    We didn't do much bet let you vent a little.
    You were crying before you got hurt. LOL :)
    Glad it was an easy solution.

    I bet it will happen to me eventually, got the 359.
    I see the part you are talking about all the time & where it fits in the saw case. Wondered what to do if the brake was tripped & wouldn't go back on.
    How do you reset the brake? Roll/pry the 3 point star back to lock the brake open, with pliers? Hold the star tight & pull back the brake lever.?

    What bar you gonna get?

    Edit: Found this online on FixYa.com:

    You removed the cover while the chain brake was in the locked position. The plier method will be a pain in the ***, as you cannot get enough leverage to twist lock or spread the spring. I've accidently done this myself and found a much easier way to solve the problem. Just remove the chain brake handle by unscrewing 2 screws. Stick the cover and the handle together as they would if it was correctly assembled and twist. You should be able to unlock the chain brake and it will now slide right on.
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  11. Wildo

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    I agree with the above statement. After it happened to me I was clueless on fixing it for a good hour at work, I finally got it back together with magic and proceeded to cut into a rock this time breaking the chain. I pryed the star back with my scrench. (Oh ya same rock inside the tree) boy i Have good luck
  12. weatherguy

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    Did the same thing over the summer, walked away for the night and took a look at it the next day and got it fixed. Sometimes when your frustrated your not gonna get anything done right.
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  13. PapaDave

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    Having never worked on a chainsaw other than changing a chain, I got a bit frustrated and came looking for help.
    I almost didn't, because I usually just putz around until I figure it out. This one didn't make sense until I came here. It didn't dawn on me that the chain brake was anything other than the handle. DOH!
    "Crying before I got hurt" Ouch, but I think you're right, dave.
    Anyway, I used a screwdriver and pried the direction that made sense (which didn't work), then reversed direction and it popped to the un-braked (wth is that) position.
    I thought of just getting an OEM bar. Good, bad, or ugly? This bar is definitely worn to the point of needing replacement.
    Again, thanks to everyone. Even the one who was pointedly blunt. I need a brick upside the head sometimes.;)
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    Hey fellas, why don't you just buy saws that have the brake on the inside? Just remove cover swap chain & cut. They've got orange on em too.==c A C
    P S Glad you got it fixed Dave.
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    don't feel bad happened to my 55 and took me awhile to figure it out.
  16. MasterMech

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    We used to modify a scrench to unlock the brakes quickly. Had many saws come up to the counter with the same problem.
  17. osagebow

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    Hey MM-
    Any chance you have a pic of that tool?
    That "part # 8" in a pain - had to use 2 little vise grips to reset the one on my little saw - after 2 hours of psychosis, of course. Was too proud / stupid to take it back to the dealer.
  18. ScotO

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    great thread! Dammit I missed this one the other day too! What's going on with me?

    It's amazing what can happen if you just ask (and sometimes just walk away for a while) when it comes to figuring things out.

    Same thing happened to me with that old '67 Sears Custom tractor I use for hauling wood. That thing sat for over 15+ years in the shed, damm thing wouldn't run. Just didn't want to get into it, I guess. After reading how to rebuild a downdraft carburetor (never did one before that, so I was clueless) did some researching on the 'net and found out that the inlet tube in the bowl of the carb had a weeee little pinhole inlet on the side that I couldn't even see, it was clogged. Had I not gotten on the 'net to research it, I would still be beating my head in with that little carburetor. Anyway, it runs like a top now. Use it all the time to haul firewood at our jobsites and at home. All thanks to some research and a little 'walk away' time.....
  19. ScotO

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    great thread! Dammit I missed this one the other day too! What's going on with me?

    It's amazing what can happen if you just ask (and sometimes just walk away for a while) when it comes to figuring things out.

    Same thing happened to me with that old '67 Sears Custom tractor I use for hauling wood. That thing sat for over 15+ years in the shed, damm thing wouldn't run. Just didn't want to get into it, I guess. After reading how to rebuild a downdraft carburetor (never did one before that, so I was clueless) did some researching on the 'net and found out that the inlet tube in the bowl of the carb had a weeee little pinhole inlet on the side that I couldn't even see, it was clogged. Had I not gotten on the 'net to research it, I would still be beating my head in with that little carburetor. Anyway, it runs like a top now. Use it all the time to haul firewood at our jobsites and at home. All thanks to some research and a little 'walk away' time.....
  20. PapaDave

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    Uh, Scotty.....step away from the keyboard and mouse. Double posts use up valuable bandwidth.:cool:
  21. MasterMech

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    No picture (don't have one right now either) but we just ground notches in the small wrench end so that what was left would mesh with the brake mechanism. I also had luck just pressing the cover against the brake handle and releasing it normally on some saws.
  22. osagebow

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    OK - thought that would be howya did it.. Plastic parts that are supposed to turn the metal part (Really???:mad: ) are all chewed up, of course. Blame that on the single bolt / hand crank doodad holding the cover on a 235

    Thanks a bunch, MM -
    this'll help me run this 235 till I use up the 4 chains I have.

    FWIW, love my old 350

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