Pros and cons to an outside air kit??

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fire_N_ice

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Aug 27, 2007
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Monmouth County, NJ
Any drawbacks to an outside air kit??
Will the insert run cooler?
If I am not burning 24/7, will keep the insert super cold?
looking to install an Avalon Rainier or if I have to a pendleton insert.

TIA for replys
 
Just talked to installer, he said an outside air kit could not be installed in either insert b/c it mounts on bottom. only in stove version. Still what will I be missing it was able to be installed?
 
I am sure you must have seen this already, but just in case,https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/wiki/Outside_Air_Kit_-_Why/

Also, just FYI, I have a air tight home with a air exchanger as is mandatory for all newly constructed homes and I do not have an OAK. I have not seen a problem yet but this will be my first full burn season so we will see. Good luck.
 
I like OAK's, cant do anything but help IMO. Do you have an ash dump? If so set the insert on top and vent OAK through it. If not could you drill a hole in the fireplace floor and have the room to vent the OAK to the outside?
 
BLIMP said:
http://www.woodheat.org/outdoorair/outdoorairmyth.htm

i'm sorry but i must respectfully disagree with this link. at least a large portion of it. the effectiveness of using outside air is not a myth, ive dealt with far too many cases where adding an OAK has alleviated poor performance due to tight construction.
 
stoveguy2esw said:
BLIMP said:
http://www.woodheat.org/outdoorair/outdoorairmyth.htm

i'm sorry but i must respectfully disagree with this link. at least a large portion of it. the effectiveness of using outside air is not a myth, ive dealt with far too many cases where adding an OAK has alleviated poor performance due to tight construction.

Yes and along with that also a leaky house can benefit. A controlled path of winter ridged air is made to the appliance without getting that miserable draft and ice build up at other extremities in the home. In other words you know where that -40 air is coming from and not freezing up any of the plumbing, windows etc... in those unknown areas.
Controlling humidity also has its +es.
 
I would suggest that you thoroughly research the OAK and the specific stove to which it is to be attached. I would have to agree if well designed it would be a benefit to tight houses with short chimneys.

As well the "physics" of where the inlet of the OAK will be located outside your home should be well planned. I can recall a couple of forum threads the past couple yrs where the OAK is not "sealed" to the air inlet on the bottom of the stove, and the positive air pressure outside the home (ie, windward side is one instance that comes to mind) created a cold breeze out from under the stove.

A site search should be performed.
 
stoveguy2esw said:
BLIMP said:
http://www.woodheat.org/outdoorair/outdoorairmyth.htm

i'm sorry but i must respectfully disagree with this link. at least a large portion of it. the effectiveness of using outside air is not a myth, ive dealt with far too many cases where adding an OAK has alleviated poor performance due to tight construction.
true & ironically a 2tight consruction needs the ventilation from stove drafting without the OAK. link sez 10-25 cfm for stove drafting, what's that mean in terms of heat lost?
 
Why is an outside air kit almost as touchy a subject as religion?
 
Pagey said:
Why is an outside air kit almost as touchy a subject as religion?
because its not normally dealt with with detailed science, much like religion
 
I know this is old. But what about just installing a Panasonic passive air inlet near the stove (It's basically an insulated tube with options for 10cfm, 17cfm or OFF)? My concern is about wind backdrafting into the intake which is made of aluminum and would touch drywall, insulation, etc.. I'm not sure if some stoves or outdoor air kits are designed to make backdrafting into the intake impossible?
Most likely looking at a Jotul F100 or F3CB but open to other good options.

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/images/models/fv-gkf32s1.jpg

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wc...upId=119517&surfModel=FV-GKF32S1&displayTab=F
 
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