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Quadrafire is made in CHINA !!!!!! WTF ?

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by cncpro, Jul 18, 2008.

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  1. cncpro

    cncpro New Member

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    That's good to hear. Hopefully I will be as happy as you...

    So far, the quality of materials and worksmanship seems pretty much on par for what I've seen coming out of China in the past.

    The right rear corner support which gets screwed down to the base of the stove wasn't tight which was causing the lower right door to be incorrectly adjusted since it's hinge post was flopping back and forth. I tried to tighten it only to find that the phillips head was completely stripped out... I cold-chiseled the screw head off and replaced the screw.

    Aside from that, every sticker on the stove is at least halfway peeled off right out of the box... Bah, who reads those stupid safety warnings / instructions anyway... :roll:

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  2. MainePellethead

    MainePellethead Minister of Fire

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    And now.....Congress has taken it upon itself to decide what kind of light bulbs we should have in our home....regular light bulbs will be replaced whether you like it or not by our congress and senate with mercury FILLED flourescents......guess where there made? Guess who the "exclusive" maker is....yep....China. They got our dog food etc.....now their going after us...how long before theres a light bulb filled with to much mercury and people are effected?

    Disgusting.....I say kick all the bums out(yeah you too Teddy) and start fresh with "logical" ideas. We are a sheep filled country with wolves leading.
  3. thecoalman

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    Leisure Line which is smaller company that offers anthracite coal stoves was offered by a Chinese company to have there stoves made and assembled in china and shipped here in a box ready to sell cheaper than what they could make them for. e.g. the company could close the manufacturing plant and continue to operate at a much higher profit margin. There is some integrity left in the this world and the owner didn't take the deal but in the corporate world it's a completely different story.
  4. MCPO

    MCPO Minister of Fire

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    Hey, Some GE light bulbs (and others) have been made in Hungary for the past 20 yrs.
    My 2004 Chrysler van was made in Canada but my 2005 Honda van was made in Ohio.
    Go figure.
  5. jenrn54

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    I emailed quadrafire in Oregon and they say the classic bay 1200 is made in Colville, WA. I have a friend who is still waiting for his classic bay ordered in July! His dealer also said classic bay is made in the US. True or not?
  6. slls

    slls Minister of Fire

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    My CB1200 came in a box, it had Made in China all over the box. The stove was manufactured in July, I received it in late September, it was on a slow boat from China, hey that sounds like an old song.
  7. wilbilt

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    At least the stove was clearly labeled "Made in China".

    A larger problem IMHO, lies with products that are minimally labeled or unlabeled to intentionally deceive consumers. People buy a "good old American brand" and never know the item was made elsewhere because the origin labeling is in microscopic print hidden on the back of the package (that is immediately discarded) or missing entirely.

    Don't get me started.
  8. BrotherBart

    BrotherBart Hearth.com LLC Mid-Atlantic Division Staff Member

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    I just got back from Home Depot with one you will love wilbilt. Box proudly proclaims "Proudly Engineered In America" With a big full color American flag. Over at the bottom corner of the box buried in between other small text "Made in Thailand".
  9. krooser

    krooser Minister of Fire

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    Well THAT would be a deal breaker for me... I have never purchased anything that was made in China that was as good as an American-made product. I'll buy Euopean goods without much worry... even the occasional other third-world country stuff.

    But I DO read labels... I DO prefer to buy products made by my friends, neighbors and fellow forum members...
  10. wilbilt

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    That would be in clear violation of Chapter 19, Part 134 of the Federal Code of Regulations. It states that whenever the words "America", "American", or the letters "US" or "USA" (etc.) appear on an imported product, the country of origin shall be identified in close proximity and in at least a comparable size typeface.

    Unfortunately, the agencies charged with enforcing these regulations don't seem to care. These would be the FTC and the Customs Bureau. I have complained to the FTC about this issue with zero result. I told you not to get me started...

    ;-P
  11. packerfan

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    Englander makes their stoves right here in the good old USA.
  12. krooser

    krooser Minister of Fire

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    several years ago I caught a TV program dealing with China's emerging economy.

    They showed how people in small villages manufacture machine tool castings (and other castings) in their own backyard foundries. They showed how one guy had a pile of scrap iron... he had a small melting pot on top of a roaring fire. Another guy was operating a human powered bellows. The first guy was throwing old steel scrap into the melting pot... one part bicycle frame... one part RR rail... two parts old car fenders.

    He skimmed off the slag and poured the molten metal into casting boxes. When cooled, they shhok out the sand and loaded up the parts into a rickshaw and delivered them to a local machine shop.

    Kinda looked like something outta the early 1800's...

    A more recent PBS (take THAT with a grain of salt) showed a factory where 450,000 people work... making everything from stockings to engine blocks... 12 hours per day/seven days per week for 4200.00 per month.

    I chose not to contribute to China's grip on world trade...
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    Once upon a time the USA with 5% of the worlds population produced 65% of the worlds goods but that was in the fifties and sixties.The major economies industries were all destroyed in WW2.It took them years to build the factories again then it took them several more years to get back their market share thus bringing them almost into the 1980's.The world is just being equalised, Japan was like China in the 70's with shoddy products but we had guys like Peter Drucker who taught them how to build quality and soon their products were better than ours.Who is going broke the big 3 or toyota or honda or bmw.I am sure China is aware of its quality issues and are doing everything possible to fix it otherwise they know their fate lies with the big 3 but without a bailout as communist they do not believe in bailouts thats for capitalists.Or was that the other way around not sure anymore.
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    Just got done investigating my whining fasco exhaust motor and yup it's made in China..
  15. loulou

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    Well, I've only been a member of this board for a few days, but I have quickly come to the conclusion that all Stove Dealers are somewhat on the shady side, a bit rude, and will say anything to make the sale.

    My Enviro is made in Canada (I think, I didn't look on the stove) which was an important factor in my decision to purchase. While in shopping mode, my husband asked the dealer if it also burned corn.

    He answered, "Yes, you can burn corn in these" on numerous occasions (because DH was in doubt, so each time we went back, he asked again w/ an 'are you sure?".

    Well, I knew it didn't burn corn since I was doing all the researching, but bought it anyway. DH wanted a Harman, I didn't. So I bought it and told him a few weeks later. Of course, we get the stove and the first sentence in the book is "Burn Pellets ONLY". :)

    I never did ask the dealer about his lie. I assumed he meant, "Yeah, you can burn corn, but if you do, you're out of the warranty".

    PS: Goodluck finding anything that isn't made in China. The keyboard you're typing on is from China. Even HD motorcycle apparels and bike parts are made in China.

    Louise
  16. TMonter

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    Quadrafire 2100,3100, 4100 and 5100's are all made in Colville WA I believe or at least a good portion of them are.
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    By law it has to be marked conspicuously on the outside of the box as the consumer would see it. If its on the box then it is made in China. The get fined bigtime if they don't mark merchandise. Things made in the US don't have to be marked though most do just for bragging rights. When you don't see it marked anywhere its safe to say its made in the US then they throw in this wrinkle. Chinese firms send raw parts to the US for final assembly then magic happens. It is suddenly now considered made in the US through and through as far as you get to know. Isn't international trade grand?????
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