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  1. Arithian New Member

    joined: Sep 24, 2008
    11 posts
    NE PA
    I had my flue cleaned and inspected the other day in the house I bought a few months back. I have a pretty much brand new 8" flue system, I'm looking at an Englander, probably the new cpm model. My question is, do I just need a thimble and reducer to connect the 3" pipe to the existing flue or do I need to run a 3" liner through the entire system? I checked Englander's site, it seems like they don't specify a whole liner, but I've heard other places that you need one. Thanks.
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  2. Smudge88 Member

    joined: Sep 24, 2008
    104 posts
    Cedar Knolls, N.J.
    The thimble in 3" should be good...if the chimney is tall you would have to increase to 4" after 12 or 15'..I forget...Give Englander a call...they're more than helpful
  3. DiggerJim New Member

    joined: Jul 29, 2008
    497 posts
    Northcentral Connecticut
    If the effective length is over 15 feet you should use 4" pipe. The effective length is calculated by counting each Tee or 90 degree ell as 5 feet, each 45 degree as 3 feet and each vertical foot of piping as 1/2 a foot. Horizontal runs of pipe are counted 1 foot per foot of run.
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