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  1. jotulburner New Member

    joined: Sep 9, 2010
    58 posts
    maine
    R value for 3/8 inch millboard??? My manuual just calls for 3/8 inch millboard (MICORE® 300 Mineral Fiber Board,) I may want to use other material to equal this r value. Any one know the depth of cement that would be equivalent. Thanks
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  2. Wood Heat Stoves Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 12, 2009
    1,882 posts
    Nevada City, California
    micore and millboard are not the same. micore is like ceramic baffle material, way more r value tham millboard

    for example, hearthstone says 1/2" micor has 1.1r
    and 1/2" millboard has .2r
  3. Wood Heat Stoves Minister of Fire

    joined: Jun 12, 2009
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    Nevada City, California
  4. jotulburner New Member

    joined: Sep 9, 2010
    58 posts
    maine
    that is great info I only need 3/8 " millboard so .2 r
  5. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Seems to be some disagreement here. Some of the confusion might be because materials have changed. Asbestos millboard is no longer used. One user reported that looking at the underside of their commercial hearthpad revealed Micore as the bottom layer. When I researched this a while back I found that millboard has a higher insulation value than cement board, depending on its composition. For example McMAster-Carr sells millboard with an R value of .5-.7/ 1/2" http://www.mcmaster.com/#millboard-sheets/=8u1ce2.

    here's an old thread on the topic:
    http://hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/8650/

    here is another discussion about the R value of asbestos millboard:
    http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-499220.html

    When in doubt I would err towards the higher value. It's really hard to change later on and who knows what stove may be on this hearth in a few years. In the least, I'd put a sheet of metal in between a couple layers of cement board for better protection.
  6. jotulburner New Member

    joined: Sep 9, 2010
    58 posts
    maine
    So if my stove manual requires only 3/8 inch of millboard what would the equivalent be using durock or wounderboard?
  7. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Like the linked discussions revealed, it depends on what the millboard is made from. In the second link it sounds like the consensus for asbestos was R = ~1.4/in.. If so 3/8" would be R .525 or two sheets of durock (R .52/in"). If you want a measure of additional protection, add the sheet of metal or maybe go with 3 sheets of cement board. That equals R .78.

    Micore is R 2.33/in so if you want to take that calculation then 3/8" would = R .87. Your pick.

    One thing that might guide choice is whether the stove has the ashpan or at least the bottom heat shield. If neither I would go for the higher R value.
  8. jotulburner New Member

    joined: Sep 9, 2010
    58 posts
    maine
  9. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,118 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Yes, I've posted a link to it a few times. Good info for wallshields, but it doesn't really cover hearth R value, just the basics.
  10. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,472 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    Just a note . . . this document was created in 1997 . . . I'm thinking it might refer to the original Durock and not the NextGen Durock which has not been tested and listed for use with hearths.

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