Thanks Mike . . . I'll keep you in mind. At this point we are exploring TV via the internet . . . or Dish . . . based on what I have seen from a lot of folks Time Warner is not well loved. As for DirecTV (many folks have had good luck with them and I understand) . . . had no issues until recently with three visits and the same problem happening each time. If the folks had agreed to offering me something more than a pittance for the hassle of losing the service, having to cut down a tree to try to solve the problem and take time off from work I would probably still be with them . . . but they were not willing to offer up something a bit closer to what I was looking for and then to add insult to injury were threatening to charge me close to $500 for terminating service with them even though I was quite clear when we upgraded that there was no contract and signed no paperwork.