Ray, how I wish we were headed east as I'd gladly help you with that oak. You mentioned heavy. Not sure if you saw the thread I made and told about my wife moving those heavy logs. While I'd haul out a load, she would move more to where I could back the trailer up to them. Took a scales out and weighed some. Heaviest was 145 lbs. That was a 16" log that was cut 12' from the butt. Can you imagine what those butt logs weighed?!