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Post in 'The Hearth Room - Wood Stoves and Fireplaces' started by bobabuoy, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    If you can get up on the roof you might want to try a temporary extension to the chimney to see how this helps. Get a 4ft length of 6" round warm air duct pipe from the store. On a calm day, pull the chimney cap and cram the vent pipe, crimp down into chimney. If you can, anchor it with a couple screws. Fire up the stove and see how she runs. If it's radically better, the issue is marginal draft.

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  2. Diabel

    Diabel Minister of Fire

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    Is there a wood supplier out there that sells seasoned (13-16%) oak?
    Sorry but have my doubts.
    corey21 and BrowningBAR like this.
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    Agree on the MC of the wood. If true, it would really be a one of the first for a burner to find a seller with truly seasoned wood without havng to spend years finding that one jewel.

    I would swap the wood…and then extend the pipe…and then consider swapping the stove. She is pretty where she sets and although good and bad reviews exist for every unit, I would like to think you can get this one to work for you.
  4. Diabel

    Diabel Minister of Fire

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    +1
    I would start with the least expensive option!
  5. bobabuoy

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    I went out to check another couple of pieces of oak and found the first split was 15% (I was happy with this), and the second split was 20% (not so happy here). Overall, I have a range from 13.5% to 20% with most hovering around 16%. I would think that this is a pretty good lot of wood for the average woodburner. If this would is not dry enough, then most likely, this is not the stove for me.

    I do still feel that the chimney height is perhaps an issue and will likely try adding some more height. The question really becomes - how much more do I need to add to see a significant difference? Is there a chart that shows this?
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    BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

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    Again, are you taking a split, splitting that in half, and testing the freshly split section?
  7. bobabuoy

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    Yes.
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    Just realized I was wrong about my chimney height and the required height. I re-measured and found that I have 15'6" and the minimum is 16ft in the manual. Now keep in mind, this is after having a qualified installer install the stove and chimney, and then call them back to tell them the manual said I needed more height on the chimney (originally they left me with a 12'6" chimney).
  9. begreen

    begreen Mooderator Staff Member

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    try adding a 4ft section temporarily and see if it dramatically improves operation.
  10. Calentarse

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    As an VC 2n1 owner who understands the tribulations of getting these things to operate, I agree with your post all things said and done.
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    Bub381 Minister of Fire

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    In all seriousness and the troubles of the company,get rid of the damned thing while ya can still get something for it and go get ya a Fireview.Catch that sail,may even get a return for cheap.You wont want to pay for the parts when it goes to pieces and good luck with service.
  12. Calentarse

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    I think I'm going to hang on a while longer. I only purchased my stove in 2010 (when the 2N1 technology came out) and if I can operate it correctly, it really does offer some amazing efficiency. The only trade off is that after all is said and done to prevent the backpuffing (above) the stove cannot be operated at low or medium temps. If I try to do that, it will most definitely backpuff. As such, my draft can be completely shut and the stove will hold at 600+ degrees for hours and hours. It's amazing, but at the same time annoying if I don't want all that heat in the first place. What doesn't the EPA understand about me wanting a 10-12 hour burn time without having my stove go above 400 degrees? My poor house gets to 78-80 degrees in no time. When we wake up, we have enough coals to start another fire and the house is around 70, which is really nice in the winter. Not what I was expecting when I bought the stove. They should warn people that the temps cannot be controlled.
  13. begreen

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    Increase the draft a bit by extending the chimney. That should help with the backpuffs.
  14. Calentarse

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    If you load your PE to the brim on a bed of coals, can you come to back to it in 10 hours and still get a fire going? That's one thing I can do with my Encore that I'm not seeing I'd be able to do with a PE or Hearthstone?
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    Yes. The Summit and T6 will provide easy restart, and in some cases usable heat, at or beyond 10 hours with hardwood.
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    I get further than that with my PE super. In fact, I can get a fire going 16 hours later in most cases... I'm sure the T6 and the Summit do better.
  17. Calentarse

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    And can these stoves be dampened down so that they don't exceed 500 degrees at night? Can you set the stove to operate overnight at say, 450 all night? With my encore, I'm getting way too much heat overnight. I load it up to get the long burn times but end up with 750 griddle temps at some point in the night and I don't want my next stove to be so hot. I wish I could put less wood in the stove and still get the 10 hour burn times.
  18. begreen

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    What you are asking for is more in cat territory, though it depends on the wood and operator. Today I had a load of doug fir take off on me with 750F peak temp. The next load was locust and it never exceeded 600F and is still cruising 9 hrs later.
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    Did you end up extending your pipe? Any updates?

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