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  1. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA


    Is the info good or bad?

    That is how i start my fires.
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  2. ridemgis Member

    Although it sounds completely crazy, try building your fires upside down. Couple of splits on the bottom with lots of criss-crossed kindling on top. Bigger kindling lower down and smallest stuff on top. Throw a couple of knotted (not scrunched) newspapers on top and watch it go. Better yet, skip the newspaper and use a 1/4 super cedar. It really does produce less smoke while catching just fine.
    PJ
  3. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    I tried the top down last winter and had a smoking mess. May try it again cause now i have seasoned wood.
  4. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,134 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
  5. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    I watched that one several times just not gave it much thought great tips.

    Do you think i would have better luck then my first try? Also i have a big box of fire starters called strike a fire from lowes.
  6. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,134 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    It may take a bit more practice and perhaps better kindling?

    If you want an easy start, get a free sample pack of SuperCedars from Thomas. Break them into quarters. One or two quarters is all you'll need to get a good fire going.
  7. ridemgis Member

    What he said! The trick is dry wood with lots of air space and a super cedar.
  8. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    Thank you begreen.

    I may check in on the superceders i used the ones i have now before i run out of seasoned wood last year. I could start fire with normal splits with the that brand last year before running out of seasoned wood.
  9. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,962 posts
    Northern Virginia
    What I find is that every time someone didn't have success with top down they always say "I did it just like the video. Except for...". Don't do "except for".
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  10. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    That may be my problem.
  11. PapaDave Minister of Fire

    15-20 pieces of kindling? WTH?
    Never. Not here.
    And, the larger pieces/splits go in when everything else goes in. No prob, Bob.
    Dry wood is key.
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  12. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    When i do use kindling but just 10 maybe 12.
  13. begreen Super Moderator

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    36,134 posts
    South Puget Sound, WA
    Yeah, that did seem a bit overkill. I usually use about 3-4 pieces of kindling, but that is with N/S loading and the Tunnel of Love ® starting method.
  14. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    Sincei have a thread going got a Q that just came up. I have a cast iron steamer that i just cleaned is it ok to season it with oil in my oven like cast iron pots.
  15. Backwoods Savage Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 14, 2007
    24,194 posts
    Michigan
    I'm with BeGreen. 3-4 pieces of kindling is plenty. If you run out of kindling, no problem. A super cedar will still start the fire nicely.

    I also do not use a top down fire but not a bottom up either. Just something I played around with over the years. I usually lay 2 splits in the bottom and try to form a slight Vee. On that goes a super cedar and it gets lit right away. Then I lay 2-4 pieces of kindling and on top of that goes another split. Fire is all set for several hours.
  16. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    I have plenty kindling probably wont use it much since i have fire starter.
  17. firefighterjake Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    13,477 posts
    Unity/Bangor, Maine
    First time or two I tried a top down it didn't work well for whatever reason . . . third or fourth time I think was a charm . . . have never looked back . . . now I forget that "normal" folks don't light fires this way and I get weird looks when I light a fire like this while camping, in the fire pit, etc.
  18. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,962 posts
    Northern Virginia
    The video is showing how to get a coal bed. The reason for all the small splits that are referred to as kindling. Doing a cold start ya put the big splits on the bottom, small on top and the knots on top of that and rock and roll for hours.

    Edit: It works best if you dance Gangman Style in front of the stove while the fire is starting.
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  19. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    Edit: It works best if you dance Gangman Style in front of the stove while the fire is starting.[/quote]

    Your funny BB.

    Ill try and get some pics of my fire when get it going still not cold enough in here. I guess that will wait till in the morning.
  20. BrowningBAR Minister of Fire

    joined: Jul 22, 2008
    7,103 posts
    Doylestown, PA
    I sucked at the top down method for the first two years for some reason. Probably a combination of less than optimal wood, using too large of splits, and a lack of patience on my part. The last two years the top down method worked very well for me.
  21. BrotherBart He Who Moderates

    joined: Nov 18, 2005
    21,962 posts
    Northern Virginia
    Loved it at the deer lease down in Texas. I am the camp cook, don't even carry a rifle anymore, saying "Boys, hold my beer and watch this." starting the cooking fire top down.

    Conjure up an image of amazed guys in camo.
  22. n3pro Feeling the Heat

    Looking at that video again since it was brought up on another thread, for what seems like it should be a professional produced video, you would think they would have cleaned the glass.
  23. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    Yeah they could have cleaned the glass before the video.
  24. burnt03 Member

    joined: Oct 30, 2011
    205 posts
    Peachland, BC, Canada
  25. corey21 Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 28, 2010
    2,208 posts
    Soutwest VA
    I now use 1/4 of a super ceder and 3 splits and 5 peaces of kindling.

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