1. Welcome Hearth.com Guests and Visitors - Please enjoy our forums!
    Hearth.com GOLD Sponsors who help bring the site content to you:
    Hearthstone Soapstone and Cast-Iron stoves( Wood, Gas or Pellet Stoves and Inserts)
    Caluwe - Passion for Fire and Water ( Pellet and Wood Hydronic and Space Heating)

Silent Splitting

Post in 'The Wood Shed' started by lumbering on, Apr 10, 2013.

  1. Joful

    Joful Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    6,358
    Loc:
    Philadelphia
    Based on the responses thus far, I suspect you're going to be our first test subject. I've not seen anyone mention them prior to you, and I spend way too much time here.

    Helpful Sponsor Ads!





  2. westkywood

    westkywood Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    366
    Loc:
    Kentucky
    Just curious. Have the neighbors actually come to you or is this the Housing Authority coming to you and saying "people are complaining?"
    I'm of the opinion that everyone that moves into a neighborhood that has rules are obligated to oblige by those rules. You know it when you move there. You have to respect your neighbors. If you want to do what you want to do when you want to do it, move to the country. Then you can tell your neighbors to go jump in a lake. I'm with you finding a quieter solution. Though, I don't know what that is...................................
  3. westkywood

    westkywood Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    366
    Loc:
    Kentucky
    I think it's splitting hairs to try to define the difference (legally) between yard work and splitting wood. It's getting "in your face" and challenging. Like you said, It's not the action they dont want after 5:00 , its the noise coming from the yard.
  4. Paulywalnut

    Paulywalnut Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Messages:
    2,131
    Loc:
    Kennett Square, PA
    My gosh you sound like some kind of criminal ;)
  5. lumbering on

    lumbering on Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2012
    Messages:
    483
    Loc:
    New York
    Yes, people actually complained. And I'm clearly in violation. And I knew it when I moved in. And I bought an abandoned house for half price. And it is really quiet here...So overall, good deal.

    Now I just have to figure out if $250 for gear is worth it. It sounds like I will be the test subject.
  6. MasterMech

    MasterMech Guest

    That kind of dough gets you most of the way into an electric splitter which to your neighbors will be nearly inaudible. There is plenty of exercise to be had using a power splitter, trust me. You just crank up the output a bit. ;)
  7. Bret Chase

    Bret Chase Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2013
    Messages:
    648
    Loc:
    Maine
    Fortunately for me... my extended family is quite large and has been in this town for over a century... we have a well earned "reputation" and have a long standing relationship with the town.... We are generally left alone, thankfully.

    I generally try to be considerate.... I won't start a piece of equipment before 8am on a saturday... 9am on sunday... and am generally well worn out by 7pm...

    I have been known to prove a point though...
    milleo and firefighterjake like this.
  8. scooby074

    scooby074 Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    389
    Loc:
    Nova Scotia
    That halder stuff looks nice. One neat thing I see is that its modular, so you can swap out heads to match what your doing.

    Did you see the EH 3007. which is a Simplex maul with a wedge installed? Their wedges look like they have a twist. Might be a good splitter?
    [​IMG]

    They also have a splitting AXE. that has a different profile too'
    [​IMG]
  9. gmule

    gmule Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Messages:
    453
    Loc:
    Conifer Colorado
    Is it possible for you to rent a storage locker and split wood off site and bring it home split?
  10. HDRock

    HDRock Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2012
    Messages:
    2,208
    Loc:
    Grand Blanc, Mi
    I am glade I don't live where you do. And I don't have the cry babies you do.

    I make noise, the two neighbors that are kinda close make noise, and no one cries about it

    I recently had trouble with the authority's about a inoperative unlicensed vehicle ,that had been there for years,with no complaints anyway, long story short, ended up having to go to court,I repaired it ,put plates on it, and it was dismissed.
    Here is the Ordnance ,I just wanted to show the part in bold ,but read it all if U like
    The red part, I never did ask the cop about washing it before I put plates on it ;lol
    Oh ya , check the blue part
    Some of this stuff is never enforced, some of this stuff is ridicules
    A vehicle looks the same with or without plates :mad:

    EXTERIOR PROPERTY AREAS
    302.1 SANITATION - All exterior property and premises shall be maintained in a clean, safe
    and sanitary condition. The occupant shall keep that part of the exterior property which such
    occupant occupies or controls in a clean and sanitary condition.
    302-8 MOTOR VEHICLES - Except as provided for in other regulations, no inoperative or
    unlicensed motor vehicle shall be parked, kept or stored on any premises, and no vehicle shall
    at any time be in a state of major disassembly, disrepair, or in the process of being stripped or
    dismantled. Painting of vehicles is prohibited unless conducted inside an approved spray
    booth
    Exception: A vehicle of any type is permitted to undergo major overhaul, including
    body work, provided that such work is performed inside a structure or similarly enclosed
    area designed and approved for such purposes.
    ZONING ORDINANCE
    4.50 PARKING, STORAGE AND REPAIR OF VEHICLES - The following standards shall
    apply to any storage or repair of vehicles within any zoning district:
    1. All vehicles parking or being worked on in a front yard area shall be on an approved
    driveway surface, licensed and operable. Approved driveway surfaces include asphalt or
    concrete. Stone base or gravel is acceptable as a temporary surface for up to one (1) year.
    2. Routine maintenance procedures (such as washing, changing oil, fluids, belts or spark
    plugs) on a residential lot shall only be permitted on a licensed vehicle that is owned or leased
    by the owner or tenant of the principal dwelling. Such maintenance procedures shall be
    permitted for a maximum of four (4) consecutive hours and a maximum of five (5) days during
    any single month. Procedures which require the vehicle to be immobile or inoperable in
    excess of five (5) consecutive days shall be carried out within an enclosed buiiding or off the
    premises.
    3. inoperable vehicles and vehicle parts shall be stored inside an enclosed building.
    Section 4.50.1: All vehicles parking or being worked on in a front yard area shall be on an
    approved driveway surface, licensed and operable. Approved driveway surfaces include
    asphalt or concrete. Stone base or gravel is acceptable as a temporary surface for up to one
    (1) year.
    Section 4'50.2: Routine maintenance procedures (such as washing, changing oil, fluids, belts
    or spark plugs) on a residential lot shall only be permitted on a licensed vehicle that is owned
    or leased by the owner or tenant of the principal dwelling. Such maintenance procedures shall
    be permitted for a maximum of four (4) consecutive hours and a maximum of five (5) days
    during any single month. Procedures which require the vehicle to be immobile or inoperable in
    excess of five (5) consecutive days shall be carried out within an enclosed building or off the
    premises.
    Section 4.50.3: inoperable vehicles and vehicle parts shall be stored inside an enclosed
    building.
    Section 4.50.4:
    parking of tow trucks is prohibited in any zoning district except on a lot where
    the principal use involves approved automotive service or repair.
    Section 4.S0.S:
    parking of commercial vehicles over one (1) ton within a public street right-of-
    way is prohibited.
    Section 4.50.6: Parking of commercial vehicles over one (1) ton anywhere in a residential
    district is prohibited; except parking and storage of larger vehicles for farming or lumbering.
    operations is permitted in residential districts if the Building Department determines the vehicle
    is used exclusively for uses or activities permitted in the district.
    4.58 RECREATIONAL VEHIGLE PARKING AND STORAGE
    The outdoor parking of Class A, Class C, and non-motorized recreational vehicles,
    snowmobiles and boats for periods exceeding forty-eight (48) hours is prohibited in the front
    yard except within approved recreational vehicle storage yards. When Class A, Class C, and
    hon-motorized recreational vehicles are stored, the vehicles must be stored only within the
    confines the rear yard or side yard when behind the front building line of the principal
    building; and shall further comply with the side and rear yard setback applicable to accessory
    buildings, set forth in Section 4.2. ALL recreation vehicles parked or stored shall not be
    connected to sanitary facilities and shall not be occupied'
    Definitions of recreational vehicles (RV): Various types of "Recreational Vehicles"
    include:
    A. Travel Trailer: A portable vehicle on a chassis, which is designed to be used as a
    temporary dwelling during travel, recreational, and vacation uses, and which may be
    identified as a "travel trailer" or a "fifth wheel" by the manufacturer. Travel trailers
    generally include self-contained sanitary, water, and electrical facilities.
    On an industry-wide bases, this type of recreational vehicle is classified as a non motorized recreational
    vehicle.
    B. Pickup camper: A structure designed to be mounted on a pickup or truck chassis with
    sufficient equipment to render it suitable for use as a temporary dwelling during the
    process of travel, recreational, and vacation uses. On an industry-wide basis, this type
    of recreational vehicle is classified as a non-motorized recreational vehicle.
    C. Motor home: A recreational vehicle intended for temporary human habitation,
    sleeping, and/or eating, mounted upon a chassis with wheels and capable of being
    moved from place to place under its own power. Motor homes generally contain
    sanitary, water, and electrical facilities. On an industry-wide basis, this type of
    recreational vehicle is classified as either a Class A or Class B recreational vehicle. A
    Class A or bus type recreational vehicle has the luggage compartment below the living
    quarter. A Class B recreational vehicle is a van without a bed over the cab. A Class C
    recreational vehicle is a van with the bed over the cab and is much larger than a
    passenger van due to the bed over the cab.
    D. Van/camper: A recreational vehicle intended for temporary human habitation,
    sleeping and/or eating. This class of recreational vehicles includes conversion vans and
    camper vans which may contain refrigerator as well as water and electrical facilities.
    This class closely resembles passenger vans, but some models may be taller to allow
    for extra head room. On an industry-wide basis, this type of recreational vehicle is
    classified as a Class B recreational vehicle.
    E. Folding tent trailer: A folding structure mounted on wheels and designed for travel
    and vacation use.
    F. Boats and boat trailers: Boats, floats, rafts, canoes, plus the normal equipment to
    transport them on the highway.
    G. Other recreational equipment: Snowmobiles, jet skis, all terrain or special terrain
    vehicles, utility trailers, plus the normal equipment used to transport them on the
    highway.
  11. hickoryhoarder

    hickoryhoarder New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2013
    Messages:
    27
    Loc:
    Indiana
    That's my feeling too. Very important to be good to the neighbors, but splitting with a maul between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. seems very reasonable. I'd rather listen to that than a lawn mower or leaf blower. I'm on a 1/4 acre, surrounded by 1/4 acre lots, and get no complaints.
  12. Wood Duck

    Wood Duck Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    4,077
    Loc:
    Central PA
    I would keep splitting by hand - it is healthy and inexpensive, and an american tradition. I do think a FIskars would be a lot less loud and irritating than the sound of a sledge on a wedge. I think any tool that splits the wood directly, rather than requiring a wedge, would be a big improvement in the noise department.
  13. katwillny

    katwillny Guest

    Dave I work in an area of NY where the residents are so picky that we have very poor cell signal because they dont want the towers visible from their house. The two towers that they are building are disguised as spruce trees. ridiculous.
  14. bogydave

    bogydave Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    8,426
    Loc:
    So Cent ALASKA
    :confused:
    Spruce tree tower ?
    Should be Palm trees. LOL ;lol
  15. katwillny

    katwillny Guest

    Not in Scardsdale you dont. LOL. They are ritzzzzyyyy
  16. Kyle LI

    Kyle LI New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    10
    Loc:
    Smithtown, NY
    Man you must be on Long Island for that to happen. I use the X27 and it is quite. I Have not found to much that I can not split with it yet.
  17. lumbering on

    lumbering on Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2012
    Messages:
    483
    Loc:
    New York
    Yeah, Long Island.

    How'd you guess?

    I just relocated here for work. A lot more intense up here than I'm used to.
  18. lumbering on

    lumbering on Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2012
    Messages:
    483
    Loc:
    New York
    Found the Halder Sledgehammer on Amazon Germany for $100.
  19. scooby074

    scooby074 Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    389
    Loc:
    Nova Scotia
    Not a bad price at all.

    So your considering the sledge and wedge? Did you look at the mauls I posted earlier? Might be a better option, because you have a maul and a sledge side for wacking a wedge when needed.. I prefer a maul to the wedge. I only used the wedge when absolutely necessary.
  20. lumbering on

    lumbering on Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2012
    Messages:
    483
    Loc:
    New York
    I picked up a cheap 8 lb Home Depot maul, and will likely get the Fiskars splitting axe everyone is going on about.

    But I am thinking about the Halder Maul vs the Halder Sledge.

    I just had a whole oak tree dropped off in a dump truck and the rounds are massive. I think I'll need the wedges.
  21. lumbering on

    lumbering on Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2012
    Messages:
    483
    Loc:
    New York
    oh, and hdrock wins on the ordinances. All I have to do is hire a landscaper to do all my yard work during the weekday hours of 9 to 5.
  22. scooby074

    scooby074 Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    389
    Loc:
    Nova Scotia
    One good thing about the Halder stuff is it looks like if the maul doesnt work, you can swap the blade for another smooth face and have a double ended sledge. Wedges are nice for the big stuff though. I have a Estwing wedge and I like it for what it is.
  23. Kyle LI

    Kyle LI New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2013
    Messages:
    10
    Loc:
    Smithtown, NY

    Cause I am from there in Suffolk and that sounds about normal for some areas.
  24. scooby074

    scooby074 Feeling the Heat

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2011
    Messages:
    389
    Loc:
    Nova Scotia
    I can't even begin to imagine what it's like to live in such a restrictive place.
  25. rideau

    rideau Minister of Fire

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2012
    Messages:
    1,920
    Loc:
    southern ontario

Share This Page