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Spring/Summer Project

Post in 'The Wood Shed' started by thewoodlands, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. thewoodlands

    thewoodlands Minister of Fire

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    The plans are for a 12 x 20 or 12 x 24 utility/wood shed in the area we have about 4-5 cord stacked, guess I'll be moving it.

    The wife would like a three bay, I will be asking more questions once we get the final size down.

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  2. Waulie

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    I just think it's awesome that "the wife would like a three bay". I think you've got a keeper there, Zap.
  3. thewoodlands

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    When she makes me insulate the third bay, I'm in trouble.
  4. WellSeasoned

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    Will you be using wood that you processed from your property? I can't wait to see this project underway. Will you be running power out to it also?
  5. thewoodlands

    thewoodlands Minister of Fire

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    The wood for this will be bought, 6 x 6 post, 2 x 6 etc. The stuff I milled was planned for our cabin, it will be a busy summer with this,cutting wood along with some plans for more milling for the cabin project. Not sure on the power yet.

    The wood shed will be a good warm up for the cabin build.
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    Those dimensions seem a little tight for a 3 bay, unless we are not talking 3 bay garage doors.

    If I can make enough money over tax season, I have approval to break ground on a 30x40 foot 4 bay woodshed/garage. My mouth is already watering thinking about the possibilities. Time to get working on some tax returns and looking at some plans. lol

    Good luck with the build Zap and I will be paying attention to what you are doing and asking questions of you.
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  7. thewoodlands

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    When you live in New York State you build smaller, they tax the chit out of you. Still the 12 x 24 3 bay will do the trick, 1 bay for some of the wood, the 2nd for some tools and storage, the third bay will hold the yard tractor along with some push mowers, tool I use in the woods.

    If taxes keep going up (county up 13.5 this year) I won't close it in just use tarps like ray or papadave.
  8. fabsroman

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    Is that a 13.5% real property tax? If so, that is utterly insane. Now, I can see how it would be 3 bay. Each bay 8 feet wide by 12 feet deep. If I didn't have so many future projects planned, that would be plenty of room for me right now and then some.

    Edit to add: New York and California might be the only other states I do not want to live in other than Maryland.
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  9. ScotO

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    Looking forward to the build, Zap. As you and I have already talked about, mine will be similar to yours......three or four bays, around 12' deep, 9' ceiling height, and around 30' long. One of those bays will be used in the early spring for cooking down maple syrup, I may also incorporate the stone pizza oven on the one end of it. Lots of possibilities.
  10. thewoodlands

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    Sounds like a nice size project, the stone pizza oven sounds better.
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    How can they tax you on a non permanant structure? Free standing sitting on blocks, even with sides are not taxable in MA as far as I know.
    You might want to look into that for NY Zap.
  12. thewoodlands

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    I think if you build it on skids then your ok tax wise in NYS, we plan on sonotubes with cement which changes it. I did ask the code enforcement officer who was going to talk with the assessor, that was a few days ago.
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  13. gerry100

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    Leave some room for your saws, mauls, splitters etc and 20-30 sq ft somewhere for a pile of uglies to sit for a few years.
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  15. thewoodlands

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    Just spoke with a town official, they do tax it if you put it on skids, just less. They just need some info emailed to them so they can estimate the taxes.

    If you close it in, it makes a difference too.
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    Hey Zap...Didn't you have plans to make a cottage back on your property somewhere?? Ever get that project tackled??
  17. thewoodlands

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    Not yet, this goes before the cabin. I still have more milling to do along with some site prep.

    I actually had the plans out for the cabin (1st time in a year) when this came up
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    My only recommendation, anywhere you plan on having as shop/garage/enclosed space... insulate under the slab! It make such a difference to work on an insulated slab in cold weather. Doesn't suck the heat out of you, and is easier to heat the space.

    My father still hasn't hooked up the radiant infloor heating in his ~40x40 shop. insulated under slab (2" foam IIRC), 14ft ceiling (car hoist), 2x6 insulated walls, R50+ attic blown cellulose... heats the entire space with a single 240v construction heater, that rarely runs. That floor is comfortable to work on.
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    I don't get how NY figures all of these taxes. Had 113 acres in St Lawrence county, sold in divorce, and the taxes were 1/4 what I pay now for 1 acre in Madison county.
  20. gerry100

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    People actually live in Madison county, that's your problem
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    Looking forward to seeing the final product Zap! Yet another project to live vicariously through (like Scottys install)...love it!
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  22. Bret Hart

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    Yeah. No doubt. ;)
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    This will be a good project for you ZAP. Sounds like it will be nice to keep things out of the weather.
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  24. PapaDave

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    As usual, Overkill....hehehe
    I thought about going bigger, but the more I think about it the less I like the idea of having to walk farther from the house to get wood in the dead of winter.
    Would be nice to have a bay for the tractor though.;)
    With the new stove, the shed should hold 2 yrs, worth, and I'll keep another 3 yrs. out back.
    Gooder to go.
    zap, I keep thinking of using tarps over the front, but then I think back to the tarps I had on the stacks and cringe.
    I'd rather just build doors.
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  25. ScotO

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    you know me, uncle Dave!!

    As for the tarps on the sides, I'll take that rubber roofing that is covering my stacks and re-use it as "roll up" siding ....that black should really attract the heat and help drive the temps up inside the shed....

    Yeah, I know.......more Overkill!! ;)
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