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  1. Ironhorse74 Member

    joined: Oct 24, 2009
    176 posts
    The Great Pacific North Wet
    If a clinker is allowed to form on the pot, it gets so hot that it melts the steel. St Croix ships a pot scraper with every stove.part of my daily maintenance is to scrape the bot and make sure no clinkers have formed. My pot is six years old. It is the replacement for a one year old pot that burned through from a clinker.

    peace

    Brad
    #26

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  2. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    Yup, that is what does it all right. And the reason for the clinkers is what is in the pellets and how long you allow the ash to pile up.
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  3. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    I don't agree this one has this issue. I don't get clinkers since I been mixing pellets. If I do they are small less than grape sized. When I burned infernos it was a clinker convention but that was a previous burn pot.

    I rake the pot every single day that stove is running. I empty the middle tray into a metal bucket next to the stove then get the front back on before it goes into shutdown mode. I wait until the board is out of lockout again and open the front and scrape the pot. I also tap the bottom versagrate good with the tip of the tool. If you know what the pot looks like the top front of my pot is warped to hell. It's outside the burn area it's in the flame area so not sure what even clinkers would do for this.

    Someone should offer a stainless upgrade...
  4. heat seeker Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 25, 2011
    1,668 posts
    Northern CT
    I get very few clinkers, and they don't stay long in the pot, so maybe that's why mine is still in good shape.
  5. Hellfire Member

    joined: Oct 2, 2012
    156 posts
    Sunbury , PA 17801
    Ditto
  6. heat seeker Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 25, 2011
    1,668 posts
    Northern CT
    After giving it some thought, I wonder if the clinkers do their damage by inhibiting the airflow through the pot's holes. The airflow has the effect of cooling the metal, so blocked airflow would allow the temperature of the metal to increase, causing the damage.

    Thoughts, anyone?
  7. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    different parts of flame have different temps. I think it's more related to where the flame tips end up. I didn't think that the base of a flame was the hottest. LOL I vacuumed last nite (too lazy to go downstairs and get my eyephone) the whole front of the pot is stoved up. It's definitely heat related. This pot for some reason doesn't have alot of chlorides built up on it like previous one's have.
  8. smwilliamson Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 28, 2009
    2,718 posts
    Southcoast, MA
    u may have too much draft in yer install...let me guess 8 inch liner?
  9. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    6" not too much draft though I can close it right down or make it roar.
  10. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    Cleaned this afternoon and took some pics.

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    You can see the area around the igniter is not only cracked but about 1/2 thickness of normal already. I got this pot last winter around Feb or March. The top is so bent it's gone. The pot gets stuck in the slot it drops down into because it's out of square.
  11. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    okies did that
  12. oldmountvernon Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 27, 2011
    2,157 posts
    SE Mass
    you sure it wasnt the Infernos your mixing with them :p
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  13. Clay H Feeling the Heat

    joined: Sep 9, 2009
    276 posts
    Central Oklahoma
    Mine in the York is 8 or 9 years old and looks fine?
  14. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    That is your pot after cleaning?

    Why is there that white crap there? That looks like a chloride build up..

    Also what is the air hole configuration around the igniter hole when the pot is new? .

    It looks to me like the stove was in a reducing burn (aka a charcoal fire, improper air/fuel mixture, excess ash buildup).

    That poor burn pot.
  15. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    The white stuff covers the whole pot. In the third pic down those scrape marks are what the cheeta vac does any ash that sticks to the inside of the pot. Burn holes around the igniter are all good except for that hole that is by itself. The whole area around the igniter will look like that soon and it will just disappear. The discolored round area is already 1/2 metal thickness.

    That poor burn pot has kept me toasty warm all year :)
  16. SmokeyTheBear Minister of Fire

    joined: Nov 10, 2008
    11,439 posts
    Standish, ME
    OK, salty, first I'd do a much better job on keeping those air holes full size you are impacting the amount of air reaching the pellets and thus slowing the burn down and increasing the temperature in the burn pot. If the fire gets past a certain temperature it will have expanded the metal enough to break spot welds, cause deflection to occur around larger holes and cracks at weak spots.

    And yes a reducing burn can keep you warm while it is destroying your burn pot.
  17. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    I use the awl tool in my leatherman about once a month to clean all the holes to original size. Yea it's probably due..
  18. imacman Minister of Fire

    WOW! That's what the pot looks like just since last Feb.???? Something seriously wrong with the stove or the pot design or something....that's terrible.

    IMO, you need to bite the bullet and have a good stainless one Tig welded up like I suggested a while back. I'm sure Mike H at Englander can give you the specs on the best type of stainless to use.
  19. Hellfire Member

    joined: Oct 2, 2012
    156 posts
    Sunbury , PA 17801
    Use 316 L
  20. jtakeman Minister of Fire

    joined: Dec 30, 2008
    12,723 posts
    Northwestern CT.
    Sorry, Not buyin that! Inferno's maybe? Starting to sound more like a bash fest!
  21. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    hahahahahaha down boy down
  22. Salty Minister of Fire

    joined: Oct 2, 2009
    574 posts
    Central Ma
    I may look at having the pieces laser cut. I have a 14 ton punch press that I could probably set a 1/8 punch up in it..should be enough tonnage to punch that stuff I'd think.

    Is there a call for these I can't believe I'm the only one who has this problem when the dealer stocks them 3 at a time.
  23. heat seeker Minister of Fire

    joined: Feb 25, 2011
    1,668 posts
    Northern CT
    I'm on my third season with mine (bought it used, but it had a new pot in it), and it looks good as new.

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