Wahoowad, I apologize for my competitive comments but they were in the (mis)interpretation of your comments "he seems to be holding his own". Elk was trying to tone it down from my comments of betting on him as "winner". I am to blame for his "stepping on egg shells" not wanting this to turn into a fight. Elk doesn't always have the best typing skills but because his posts are usually technical in nature I find I need to read over the post a couple of times anyway but on a subject like this I've read enough of his posts to know what the answer is going to be and so I can skim. Safety isn't a competition it is what it is. Black and white. Elk please continue to post as you do as often as you do. My apologies to all!!