Super lithium ion battery

If this gets to market, kudos.
Obviously, this will change everything if that happens.

It looks awesome.

When it comes to answers for the next century I get the feeling we're witnessing the same pattern of discovery we had last century. New production techniques of small tech (nano tech) are allowing us to manipulate atoms, genes for tailor made gizmos. Really amazing stuff.

But what are we gonna do with all these extra people?

Now that's a green movement that could really do some good.

OK bt, you go first.

Gimmie a leg.

A bit off the flank!

So that means they can keep their spy planes up forever.

More news about tin-based Lithium batteries:
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200502/05-006E/

A good thing might be better performance at low temps, which would really be great for cars.

Yeah, that's a little dated.

You must have read my mind Jags.
Price still has to come out of the stratosphere, but it's getting there. An ACRE!! of PV!
You could sell tickets to recoup some of the outlay.

I wonder if it ever gets "that good" we won't be able to buy them. I'm guessing they will either rent them, or they will self-destruct after your license expires. No one is going to let us stay home. They'll get us working for them one way or another.

I do have dreams, however, of 1000sqft greenhouse and total energy independence. It would be awesome.

1000SF greenhouse ,sounds like a lot of work. THats what i like about a trout stream,its self powered,and if you have a cold case of ale with you,well its a win win.

There's a 60' dam about 1/2 mile behind my house I'd love to drop a turbine into. I could probably power 10 houses easy with the flow. 20-30k between 10 houses. I could pull the disconnect at the top of the street and commandeer the underground cabling and backfeed through the transformers. Then we'll just seal up the street and marry our kids to each other.

From now on, we will be known as the Island of Rhum Boogie!

Here on Rhum Boogie we do not eat cake. Cake is the desert of the infadel.

There's a road right to it. We could jack-bore a 3' sleeve for an aux spillway (60' of pipe) then close the main and retro the outlet. We'd have to drop some divers to reconfigure the inlet so debris would get to the turbine. I think it's doable as long as we can get it done before the flesh-eating zombies arrive.

That's an awesome idea. I'm coming up with roughly 80 psi with a 60' head, so we're right in fire hydrant range. I'm gonna have to borrow the pump truck from the volunteer fire department if I'm going to protect my exposed flank.

Sorry, back to the original post:


This kind of breakthrough is really an amazing boost, but seeing how we're coming up with them almost monthly I think it would tend to paralize any form of investment. If I was filthy rich sitting on a mound of cash I would be scared to start running around trying to build up a market, only to be outdone in a year by a better idea. That's not something coal or steel or oil had to worry about. I know we have to start somewhere but I have doubts we will see these advancements until someone in charge finds a way to guarantee a 20 year return on their billion dollars.

But then again, pared with new manufacturing techniques the act of retooling a plant may have more to do with the afternoon's software upgrade than months of downtime and securing a whole seperate supply chain:

http://www.lbl.gov/Tech-Transfer/techs/lbnl2642.html

From the sound of it they're spraying the anodes on reel sheet using something like an ink jet printer. From skin tissue to thin film solar to batteries and computer circuit boards. How easy is that! Get that Solyndra factory fired back up.

Correction: I'm only getting 30psi.

Yea BTU obama slapped that import tax on imported CHINAs solar panels too late to save solyndra.

I don't think it would have helped them. Well, it would have but I think there biz model was dependent on high prices for polysilicon so when that fell through the floor they lost their edge. I'm more upset about the lavish offices and the thought that they'd "already made it" attitude. If a company that is profitable wants to pull a stunt like that then fine but this was done on a loan, which I find reprehensible regardless of whether it is public or private money. I still would like to see the factory go to good use, however.